Chillwin trains BG, gets the boot outa ToV

[slayerofwither]

Originally Posted by remen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your guild drops a train on someone in another guild right next to their camp that is your fault. Your 4way analogy doesn't apply because you can't set up a camp there. If your guild drops a train on another guild and causes them to wipe, that is your fault and you should concede, and help them CR.

The wrong thing to do is deny any fault, and then pull the Raid Target anyways. What has gotten lost in a lot of these posts is that Tempest got kicked out of the zone mostly for pulling in and trying to kill LTK after training BG. If the only thing that happened was chillwin's train on Rogue, I seriously doubt that Tempest would have been kicked out of ToV. Tempest should have tried to make it right by helping BG with their CR and helping out with rezzes. Instead, they insisted that everyone else was in the wrong

You can't set up a camp in 4 way? Is there some sort of coding in the game that does not allow this? If a character stays in that area for a period of time does the code /rewind you to a safe position?

How about 4 way in Kael? Next KT or statue i'm setting up camp outside the bank. If i get a single mob agro that wasn't my own pull, I'm bring it to an exit and expect the person who initialized that train to have their guild removed from the zone IMMEDIATELY!!!

The fact is that Rogean has now set a precedent. You and your guild are 100% responsible for your train regardless of what happens to it after you zone out. Calling it on /ooc no longer is an excuse. If I sit at 4 way, get agro from your train and then bring that train back to someplace else, it's not my fault, it's yours.

How was Chillwin suppose to know that Icrit was going to get agro and bring the train all the way back to his guild? Was he suppose to be watching Rogean's steam while zoning?

Regardless of what you think of Chillwin or any other guilds, you know what happened in ToV that night was BS and this now opens up a whole new can of worms going forward.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by slayerofwither [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact is that Rogean has now set a precedent. You and your guild are 100% responsible for your train regardless of what happens to it after you zone out. Calling it on /ooc no longer is an excuse. If I sit at 4 way, get agro from your train and then bring that train back to someplace else, it's not my fault, it's yours.

Maybe Rogean expects players on this server to behave like normal people and not lawyerquesting pixel fiends?

A: Talk to Blood Guard, apologize for the mess, point out that Chillwin didn't totally train the raid, send a cleric to accelerate their CR, concede a target with 3rd tier loot, and go kill one of the 10 other dragons up.
B: Write ridiculous slippery slope argument about how you should be able to train players anywhere you want.

[kotton05]

Shut up raev you blow chunks in a 20 yr old elf sim.

Legit trash

[Jonabis]

Originally Posted by slayerofwither [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't set up a camp in 4 way? Is there some sort of coding in the game that does not allow this? If a character stays in that area for a period of time does the code /rewind you to a safe position?

How about 4 way in Kael? Next KT or statue i'm setting up camp outside the bank. If i get a single mob agro that wasn't my own pull, I'm bring it to an exit and expect the person who initialized that train to have their guild removed from the zone IMMEDIATELY!!!

The fact is that Rogean has now set a precedent. You and your guild are 100% responsible for your train regardless of what happens to it after you zone out. Calling it on /ooc no longer is an excuse. If I sit at 4 way, get agro from your train and then bring that train back to someplace else, it's not my fault, it's yours.

How was Chillwin suppose to know that Icrit was going to get agro and bring the train all the way back to his guild? Was he suppose to be watching Rogean's steam while zoning?

Regardless of what you think of Chillwin or any other guilds, you know what happened in ToV that night was BS and this now opens up a whole new can of worms going forward.

I'm 99% sure I could guess this anon account correctly.

[slayerofwither]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All AM FTE's were carefully made sure to be made after the current FTE died, including the Statue you're lying about.

[Tue Jan 01 19:08:28 2019] The Statue of Rallos Zek engages Apachai!
[Tue Jan 01 19:11:03 2019] [60 Grandmaster] Apachai (Iksar) ZONE: kael
[Tue Jan 01 19:17:47 2019] 'Statue ToD'

Oh right, FRAPS or it never happened.

[slayerofwither]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe Rogean expects players on this server to behave like normal people and not lawyerquesting pixel fiends?

A: Talk to Blood Guard, apologize for the mess, point out that Chillwin didn't totally train the raid, send a cleric to accelerate their CR, concede a target with 3rd tier loot, and go kill one of the 10 other dragons up.
B: Write ridiculous slippery slope argument about how you should be able to train players anywhere you want.

God forbid someone get their peanut butter messed up with somebody else's chocolate!

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[slayerofwither]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe Rogean expects players on this server to behave like normal people and not lawyerquesting pixel fiends?

A: Talk to Blood Guard, apologize for the mess, point out that Chillwin didn't totally train the raid, send a cleric to accelerate their CR, concede a target with 3rd tier loot, and go kill one of the 10 other dragons up.
B: Write ridiculous slippery slope argument about how you should be able to train players anywhere you want.

Behave like normal people? Have you been on this server the past 9 years or are you new here?

Yea, just concede and move on.... Oh wait....
[Tue Jan 01 18:06:52 2019] Belligerence says out of character, 'Tempest concedes feshlak'
[Tue Jan 01 18:13:01 2019] Belligerence says out of character, 'Tempest Concedes Kriez'

Slippery Slope? Creating a slippery slope and trying to skate on a slippery slope are two completely different things. You must be a democrat cheering on moving goal posts when it suites your desires.

It is entertaining seeing a majority of this thread consist of AM who got an uncontested Vulak (with dagger) and also Core who are salty that their old mates are carrying on successfully without them.

[k9quaint]

Caught on tape live by the server admin, tape made public, spends only 18 pages to avoid taking responsibility.

I feel like there should be more pages of lawyer-questing.

[Wikipedia]

To be fair like 85% of this thread is just AM obsessive girlfriend posts.

[Wow]

Originally Posted by slayerofwither [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is entertaining seeing a majority of this thread consist of AM who got an uncontested Vulak (with dagger) and also Core who are salty that their old mates are carrying on successfully without them.

You killed a whopping 1 raid target on a full repop, congratz on being successful! PS sorry you didn't get Vulak loot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]