Economy - Plat

[Izmael]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be nice if the team brought over the luclin style casino vendor in order to un-inject plat from the server.

That would be the exact contrary of nice. That would be catastrophic and would destroy P99 as we know it. The whole point of P99 is legacy items being legacy.

Hopefully, RogBog aren't ever going to do anything like that.

HOWEVER, you are right that there's too much plat and there's a need for a plat sink. One sink could be exp. Simply put, convert plat to exp. You can already do it by buying PL, except it's not that common because it needs several factors to click together - someone willing to buy PL, someone with the right class AND the right level willing to sell PL, all at the same time. Not to mention, it doesn't actually destroy plat, it just moves it around.

If there was an NPC that accepted (level x 10,000 pp) in order to ding you... that would make sense.

It would be not classic - but having a 12 years old server locked in Velious isn't classic either. It would probably help bringing plat reserves to a more reasonable level, which WOULD be classic.

[Gustoo]

Legacy items aren't the whole point of project 1999. Good golley.

Those casinos take a zillion plat to yield one rubicite BP and a manstone comes out every ten trillion zillion plat. Great plat sinks.

[Izmael]

If there were no legacy items on Green (warders count as legacy), population would probably be of Red level.

[karadin]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Platinum is infinite. NPC merchants never run out. Mobs will always spawn with more. The only factor restricting the inflation of platinum is how quickly the community can kill the mobs or farm the trash gems to sell to vendor in order to make more platinum. In all actuality, this makes platinum pretty much worthless.

The items we buy with platinum are more rare. They are limited to the respawn timer of the source mob and the chance the mob spawns multiplied by the chance the item drops. Some items no longer drop. And then players remove items from circulation by either hoarding them or equipping them on their character with no intention of ever selling. This makes a lot of items priceless.

These two factors lead to inflation. There is no limit to the amount of platinum in the market, and while most items will be replaced as soon as they are sold, some items are sold never to be seen again. Items in the market are worth a lot more than plat, so the price goes up.

Another contributing factor is that the server is top heavy. Players have multiple characters they are seeking to gear, so the demand on good gear goes up. When the demand goes up, people fill the need by supplying more, but the supply cannot always keep up, and if the item no longer drops, then the price of the item will continue to increase with demand like the legacy items.

A good example of this is the price of fungi tunic. There are more characters on the server every day whether new players or existing players creating new characters, so there's a constant demand for fungi tunic. More and more platinum enters circulation every day, but there's only a small number of new fungi tunics every day. The price will go up as long as there are new players and new characters that need fungi tunics because the fungi tunic is worth more than the plat used to buy it. This will continue until everybody who wants a fungi tunic has one and there are fewer new characters or players entering the market than new fungi tunics so that the supply exceeds the demand.

Price for things like mana stone, prenerf fungi staff, circlet of shadows, elder beads will only ever go up until somebody either finds a forgotten cache of the items or until some outside factor like nerfing elder beads. There are no new ones entering the market, and most of the time when an existing one is claimed, it's permanent never to be resold.

This pretty much covers everything.

[Ravager]

If the economy needs a plat sink, I'll take it all. I'll make a level 5 bard, take the boat to the Ocean of Tears with it, sink it to the bottom and let the corpse rot. Then everyone will be happy, right?

[Saylord]

All interesting and it seems blue needs a plat sink, or maybe not, maybe it will just turn into item trade on rare items. I believe a casino would be an answer, item recharge being nerfed and all. However legacy items should not be available.

You use a ticket system that can be purchased in any major city, bronze, silver, gold.. ect. Have a npc in mischief that you give the ticket to. The items are only no drop that currently only drop in the game. Depending on lvl of ticket, effects lvl range of what no drop item you could receive. Example, could have highest lvl ticket, gives you a no drop from dragon/god tier loot.

[Jimjam]

Start doing plat/item deletion as penalty to rule breaking / anti social behaviour on troublemakers accounts.

[bradsamma]

The ones pointing out the nerf to rechargeable clickies had the right idea. The amount of plat leaving the server with recharges was massive.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there were no legacy items on Green (warders count as legacy), population would probably be of Red level.

ya because of pharming operations for questionable purposes.

Do you want a good fun server or a toxic piece of shit server?

[Tewaz]

If they ever roll another server and decide to make one they label as non-classic instead of making a classic server this isn't classic, I hope they change legacy items.

Just make them drop forever and start them as no drop, or make them no drop eventually. Cure the mental illness of the masses that still log in.