Mid 50s grouping is brutal

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

unfortunately that is what p99 has come to

most players will always take the path of least resistance

as someone who has played / raided on a multitude of chars to and at 60...leveling in weird duo / trio / 4 mans in quiet zones is the best that p99 has to offer

they really need to nerf KC's ZEM into the ground and force people to go elsewhere

So the solution is to have no life, raid, get raid loot for your twinks, and then level them to 60 with the other raid twinks in KC The Hole.

[Sonark]

Why not just level out ZEM for all the grind to 60 groupable zones?

NOT CLASSIC, I guess.

So the next step is for everyone to get just toxic enough about it that they implement this non-Classic change.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Sonark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just level out ZEM for all the grind to 60 groupable zones?

NOT CLASSIC, I guess.

So the next step is for everyone to get just toxic enough about it that they implement this non-Classic change.

Instead of doing the "not classic", we should try actually doing classic.

Live EQ rotated ZEMs every year or every other year (too lazy to check the patch notes). P99 has rotated them once or twice in it's 10+ years of operation.

If we made P99 more like classic, the problem solves itself.

[Sonark]

That's too simple.

Let's just let people be people, and then go from there.

It's the basis of all human civilization.

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Instead of doing the "not classic", we should try actually doing classic.

Live EQ rotated ZEMs every year or every other year (too lazy to check the patch notes). P99 has rotated them once or twice in it's 10+ years of operation.

If we made P99 more like classic, the problem solves itself.

Hot zones are a post-Velious construct. Not classic.

[Trexller]

we're all bored as shit of KC

but it's the only 50s dungeon that is easily accessible, it's got the safest zone in area, it's easy to navigate around within the zone, the mobs are easy

95% of humans will always choose easy over anything else

KC also has an open floor plan. hole is linear, seb is linear, chardok is linear, hs is linear, and velks while being a pretty cool zone, is also terribly designed. They definitely slapped it together under a time crunch to ship velious.

We as humans are always going to want better, even while knowing that what we currently have is as good as it gets.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we're all bored as shit of KC

but it's the only 50s dungeon that is easily accessible, it's got the safest zone in area, it's easy to navigate around within the zone, the mobs are easy

95% of humans will always choose easy over anything else

KC also has an open floor plan. hole is linear, seb is linear, chardok is linear, hs is linear, and velks while being a pretty cool zone, is also terribly designed. They definitely slapped it together under a time crunch to ship velious.

We as humans are always going to want better, even while knowing that what we currently have is as good as it gets.

velks is even more accessible with a portal drop and town super close by

better ZEM

better loot (lol t staff)

people just suck at the game

lower dogs is such a good camp for an upper 50s group

[WarpathEQ]

I'll never understand why people gravitate to KC, absolute shit zone and one of the slowest/worst places you can level 50-60. Other than a few quest drops there is literally no value in the zone existing.

Go to Seb, go to Chardok, go to Wakening lands, go to Cobalt Scar, go to velks, go anywhere but KC and you'll have a much better outcome.

Quad kiting is the way for the wizard just solo to 60. For the warrior you're going to need to be the one that takes charge, do /who all for the classes you need to get a group going, message them, align on the best (hint: its never KC) zone to meet up in and kill some shit, when people are heading out start finding their replacement ASAP to keep the group alive.

[Trexller]

KC is easy

it's like a self perpetuating cycle

people go to KC because that's where the people go

[Toxigen]

hole was pretty lit for a while there when the zem first got boofed

there were groups set up everywhere the first few weeks

golem tower was so juicy