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Old 01-17-2017, 09:17 AM
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I'm leveling up a warrior and have some questions about ac vs HP vs sta. I played a warrior (albeit only into the high 40s) on live and always set AC as priority number one, then sta or HP as priority number 2. Does this still make sense in P99? I saw a helm going last night that had 22ac +5sta and -30cha. I currently have a Skull Shaped Barbute on my warrior (lvl 10) and was thinking the high ac helm was better overall. However, one of my friends said that the SSB was better due to the hp bonus. So my questions are:

Do you think the SSB is better at level 10, but then at some later point the other helm with higher ac would be better? (SSB has 13ac while the other had 22).

In general, how should I be gearing, i.e. how much ac should I sacrifice if an item has considerable sta or hp bonuses?

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Old 01-17-2017, 09:30 AM
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35hp is super useful at L10. The 5 sat will never beat that. As for the AC, there are supposed to be hard caps on item AC by level, but those don't appear to be in place on p99. Always seemed to me have st more AC yielded results regardless. Perhaps someone has parsed it? ^^
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Old 01-17-2017, 09:34 AM
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AC is broken on this server...
Is it really? I made a post last week about trying to decide between a monk and a warrior and someone had said that ac isnt broken, that it was actually working the way it was supposed to? Not trying to disagree, just trying to wrap my head around reality haha.
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Old 01-17-2017, 09:36 AM
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35hp is super useful at L10. The 5 sat will never beat that. As for the AC, there are supposed to be hard caps on item AC by level, but those don't appear to be in place on p99. Always seemed to me have st more AC yielded results regardless. Perhaps someone has parsed it? ^^
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Old 01-17-2017, 09:44 AM
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AC was broken early on in the server's life. It was changed around Velious release and had a noticeable impact on tanking end-game content. No clue if it's been re-broken over the last year, though.

IIRC at the time of fix Rogean had mentioned there is a softcap at some value - no hardcap.

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Old 01-17-2017, 09:54 AM
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Thanks, Khanable. Straight from the horse's mouth. So it is worthwhile sacrificing a bit of hp/sta for AC if the difference is substantial I guess?
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One thing I'd love to see parses of is two different tanks on Thifling Focusers in PoGrowth.

Because those stupid mobs have so much HP it allows you to get a decent length parse on a singular mob to reduce the RNG effect a tad.

One from a high AC tank and one from a low AC tank (same level and class), both not using Defensive or Evasive.

My general feeling is AC works but not nearly as well as it should. AC was absolute king on EQ from Classic until SoF when Heroics came in. Even then it stayed very high in consideration, certainly ahead of HP.

Fun fact this last Test patch on live EQ completely revamped the UI to show actual AC and ATK values rather than the mojo voodoo magic shown on P99. It also shows stats like Velocity (runspeed) and Mitigation/Avoidance.
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Thanks, Khanable. Straight from the horse's mouth. So it is worthwhile sacrificing a bit of hp/sta for AC if the difference is substantial I guess?
Well that was specific to a level 60 tanking what was, at one point, a fucking beast of a mob.

I have no idea how well it scales to the lower levels. It may very well be that AC just isn't tuned that well for the lower level crowd.

I realize I haven't answered your question directly - I don't think there is an answer for it, though.
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One thing I'd love to see parses of is two different tanks on Thifling Focusers in PoGrowth.

Because those stupid mobs have so much HP it allows you to get a decent length parse on a singular mob to reduce the RNG effect a tad.

One from a high AC tank and one from a low AC tank (same level and class), both not using Defensive or Evasive.

My general feeling is AC works but not nearly as well as it should. AC was absolute king on EQ from Classic until SoF when Heroics came in. Even then it stayed very high in consideration, certainly ahead of HP.

Fun fact this last Test patch on live EQ completely revamped the UI to show actual AC and ATK values rather than the mojo voodoo magic shown on P99. It also shows stats like Velocity (runspeed) and Mitigation/Avoidance.
I haven't played a level 1 here in quite some time, but I know over on TAKP I got a full set of leather armor for my level 3 ranger and I was practically unkillable because the AC made such a huge difference! lol

I'd like to see some parses too.. Raev started some with Vindi, not sure where they ended up. Would be nice to parse the low-end game too!
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Old 01-17-2017, 10:02 AM
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Well that was specific to a level 60 tanking what was, at one point, a fucking beast of a mob.

I have no idea how well it scales to the lower levels. It may very well be that AC just isn't tuned that well for the lower level crowd.

I realize I haven't answered your question directly - I don't think there is an answer for it, though.
No, you answered it fine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] The discussion helps increase my understanding!
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