NPC Spawn Issue: ClassicQuest That Matters - The Case For a Smaller VT Window

[Baylan295]

I am, admittedly, an epic-seeking enchanter with a huge bias in this matter. Nonetheless, based on the research that I have done, I believe the Verina Tomb spawn window is distinctly unclassic. This thread is an attempt to, at the very least, make the case for a different and more-classic-like variance than the current five day window.

First, the evidence which (presumably) has lead to the neckbeardiest of camps for any epic mob (in my humble opinion):

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=60394

Our Lord and Elfquest savior, Nilbong, indicates that Verina Tomb will be a 2-7 day spawn in this thread. I've yet to see any other evidence that the decision was made off of any information other than that presented in that thread. So - what evidence did we base it on? A wonderful, but out of timeline resource. The resource? http://enchanter-epic.bjornstar.com/jeb.html - now, undoubtedly, bjornstar has been a great resource for the Enchanter epic quest. In fact, much of the modern wiki now appears to be based upon his research. However, the bjornstar website also said very different things when in timeline.

I present the following, in-timeline links from the same source, which state VT is a 48 hour spawn:

Just after timeline - Feb, 2002 -http://web.archive.org/web/20020206052105/http://www.bjornstar.com:80/modani.html

Dec, 14, 2001 - http://web.archive.org/web/200112140...80/modani.html

Oct 20, 2001 - http://web.archive.org/web/200110201...80/modani.html

Aug 13, 2001 - http://web.archive.org/web/200108130...80/modani.html

June 19, 2001 - http://web.archive.org/web/200106190...80/modani.html

April 5, 2001 - http://web.archive.org/web/200104050...80/modani.html

March 31, 2001 - http://web.archive.org/web/200103311...80/modani.html

Feb 5, 2001 - http://web.archive.org/web/200102050...80/modani.html

.... You guys get the point. Every single iteration of the same source used to create the 5 day window specifies that it is a 48 hour spawn during the era.

Now, a few other things weigh in favor of this as well:

• There is no identified Vessel Drozlin spawn (from this source)
• Illia's consistently indicates that there is a window, but it is MUCH SMALLER than the 5 day window identified by Diku
• There are no other mobs (to my knowledge) with a spawn window this wide, including all of the Kunark dragons.

Now, as for what the window actually should be... (pulled from this page - http://web.archive.org/web/200201201...html?id=5235):

• Sept 24, 2001 - I camped her straight for 50+ hours. And finally got her! She is on a 48 hour spawn + 10% = 52.8 hours. Trust me - it's true. Best thing you can do is: time it after a patch and wait at her spawn point after 48 hours have past.
• Aug 26, 2001 - Did they nerf her spawn from 48 hours to 48 TO 90 hours? She should have spawned by now (I had it down to the minute) and it is now 5 hours past spawn time. =( I think they screwed both Vessel and Verina up.
• Apr 16, 2001 - o start off she has to be one of the easiest lvl 60 I've ever encountered while playing EQ. First I rolled a dark elf and placed him right where she spawns. I checked in everyone day to see if she spawned. Her spawn time is 48 hours. Finally she was there when i logged on. I called in for reinforcements, but it was 7 am and no one was on. Ended up with 1 lvl 58 war, 1 lvl 60 pally, a lvl 56 cleric and me a lvl 59 enchanter. Yes that was all it took to take her down... The war used an DE illusion and pulled her to the 3rd gate zone line. I tashed and slowed. The pally and war bashed her to death. She kept on casting spells which were mostly resisted. She only tried CHing twice, just keep her stunned. Most funny part was, the cleric only casted 2 heals throught out the whole fight. Would have been able to taken her down with just 1 tank. On a side note, there is a roaming guard near the 3rd gate zone line, you can either kill or have him mezed. She does not have any faction hits.

Now, the conclusion I have reached is the following:

• The evidence used to create the 5-day window is not in-era.
• The in-era evidence which exists suggests a 48+ hour spawn time, with some variance.
• There is no clear evidence (that I have found) that the total spawn would be GREATER than 90 hours (3.75 days). There is evidence (at the same link above) of at least 73 hours passing between spawns.

As a result, I propose a more-classic spawn window of 48-96 hours. I have found no evidence of anyone camping more than ~50 hours to get her to spawn, and the anecdotal evidence suggests that she is at least a 48 hour spawn, with a window that opens up to 73+ hours. Given the ~50 hour number that is a reoccurring theme... it seems pretty logical that a 48 hour spawn window would be a fair conclusion - after a 48 hour respawn timer.

[Seiter02]

A+ detective work. I also thought it was strange that she would have this variance in classic given that no other mobs from this era exhibit this type of window.

[Bummey]

Good work. Let's fix this garbage bottleneck. And make Drozlin the same.

[Triiz]

Great post man.

I've also did some reading on this lately and I haven't been able to find a single 1999-2001 post that suggests what we currently have is classic. Surely over multiple years an extremely frustrated Enchanter would've taken to the internet to complain he camped one of the two mobs for more than 100 hours?

It seems very uncharacteristic of P99 to base spawns off of a guide with Luclin models on the front page (disgusting) when that very same guide with Classic models ( thumbs up) completely contradicts the Luclin version. As OP mentioned, it's also unprecedented in the game for this era for such an absurd window.

[Benisato]

On live, it was not "Classic" to have as many free accounts as you felt like making, you had to pay for your accounts. The bottleneck created by VT and VD is kind of ridiculous. I have seen as many as 10 different enchanters / lvl 1 characters parked watching these spawns.

I didn't do the enchanter epic on live, but I do remember this ERA, there were a lot more enchanters with their epics than on here, epics in general,. Especially after the PoH revamp (don't get me started on the PoH staff for mages, 800k .. really?!)

In all the epics I did do.. there was never this many people waiting around for anything.

I would also like to put in for a shorter window request. But I think some non classic things need to be accounted for also.

Everyone and their mom has an enchanter alt it seems like on this server. Because people race to 60 a lot faster and get bored and make more alts, (also because of free access). My first lvl 50 took something like 148 played days with lots of exploring new lands, side tracked by unknown quests etc. People know this game inside and out for the most part now.

Another factor being EQs servers were far less stable and they went down all the time, I will never forget mashing my login button to get back in, way more than 2 times a month. They seemed to patch/disconnect frequently.

Having these 2 spawns match that of Dragons seems a bit much on here.

I vote for a 1 day spawn! get some of these enchanters out of these prisons and let them enjoy the game instead of wasting away for weeks staring at empty rooms please.

[p99pally]

Also 48 hours in alt.games.everquest

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.games.everquest/verina$20tomb%7Csort:date/alt.games.everquest/hTSO-soqe-g/B97_Xcp8wn0J

[Benisato]

Pretty sure this isn's "Classic" either.. poopsocking and selling loot rights, possibly for RMT?

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[Benisato]

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#Sep 24 2001 at 3:10 AMRating: Default
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Spawntime is like Verina Tomb 48hours + 10% = 52.8 hours.

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[Benisato]

I like this one better!, no way this is even close to classic though

NPC :: Vessel Drozlin
Vessel Drozlin
id : 106008
Full name : Vessel Drozlin
Level : 60
Race : Iksar
Class : Warrior
Main faction : Scaled Mystics
Health points : 19000
Damage : 142 to 315
Attack speed : 81%
Average melee damages : 333 per round
When killed, this NPC drops :
With a probability of 100% (multiplier : 1):
Xolion Rod (1H Blunt) - 100% (Count 1-1)
With a probability of 100% (multiplier : 1):
Words of Torment (Combinable) - 20% (Count 0-2)
Click to add an image for this NPC
This NPC spawns in :
Cabilis East

cabeast_7 : -834 / 532 / 3
Spawns every 10 min 40 sec
This npc is related to these quest :
Enchanter Epic: Test of Illusions
Killing this NPC lowers factions with :

Cabilis Residents (-30)
Crusaders of Greenmist (-30)
Legion of Cabilis (-30)
Scaled Mystics (-30)
Swift Tails (-30)

[orangemang]

#MakeVesselGreatAgain

Phayln - 60 Enchanter