Part of the Daybreak Agreement Officially Exposed: New Servers NOT Prevented

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does the article say repeatedly that the first progression server launched in 2015?

This is just not true...the first progression servers launched in either 2006 or 2007 iirc.

Does Longdale really not know the history of EQ?

To be fair, she is like 138 years old.

[Muggens]

It's not official. No certainty of a Green p99 server, we'll just have to wait and see.
Why such a hypeman for Green?

Nice that EQ is 20 years tho thats cool

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does the article say repeatedly that the first progression server launched in 2015?

This is just not true...the first progression servers launched in either 2006 or 2007 iirc.

Does Longdale really not know the history of EQ?

First one under Daybreak's management.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Turn red server to purple or green.

[DiogenesThaDogg]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not official. No certainty of a Green p99 server, we'll just have to wait and see.
Why such a hypeman for Green?

Nice that EQ is 20 years tho thats cool

green sounds like fun, a lot of people want a fresh start. a new grind to conquer, you know.

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by DiogenesThaDogg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

green sounds like fun, a lot of people want a fresh start. a new grind to conquer, you know.

[Foxplay]

Originally Posted by DiogenesThaDogg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

green sounds like fun, a lot of people want a fresh start. a new grind to conquer, you know.

I feel like people should temper their expectations with some realism as to some of the problems that will happen upon a green99 release...not saying it won't be fun but thinking it will be all sunshine and rainbow unicorn fart's is overly optimistic at best


1) The Initial Rush

With any MMO or fresh start server release there is always an initial rush of people leveling in a competitive nature to "get ahead" of the curve of progress. On brand new MMO's its typically not much of a problem, the basement dwellers with no significant other or pesky job to maintain will break away from the crowd after the first 8-10hours rather easily (while others go to sleep, work, wife faction) they continue and the gap continues each day subsequently.


Now crank that dial from nolife playing a new game hes still learning to p99 neckbeard levels of ridiculous on a game that has been for the most part completely mathed out to near speed-running levels by some. You will see guilds / individuals sharing accounts on bards constantly swarming 24/7 leveling toon's and abusing zones to get ahead (They may have to sleep but their character never has too when its shared).


I'm not saying this competition rush is bad and can't be fun, but it should go without saying that a competitive nature over limited resources will at times bring out the worst in some people


2) Pre-Nerf Poopsock

A lot of the initial rush for some will be to lock down Manastone and Guise camp's / Locket & CoS after Kunark release / and Holgresh Elder Beads after Velious release. This will probably be even more coordinated in terms of guilds or players handing off the camp to their friends working in shifts to essentially keep it perma-camped for days if not weeks.


Again not saying it will be impossible for your average player to get in on them...but expect quite a lot of greed and less than socially savvy players to be doing the same trying their best to keep it for themselves as long as possible.


3) Raid Rush is already coordinated (probably)

For those that are fantasizing about a fair and clean slate in terms of raiding...


Don't be surprised when you see well organized, hardcore players from day 1 all working together. Its not going to be a "oh get to max level (50) and then start making guilds and see who does best" experience like other MMO's. It would be naive to not think that some of the more hardcore players / guilds already have a plan in place for a green99 release


While it may not be a perfect transition guild for guild, expect to see a lot of the same players on green99. This pre-planning structure and coordination will give them better chances and getting ahead and expect to see some very fast kill's on green99...that rush for raid pixels might be over before most players even killing goblins in highkeep


Not saying they wont earn it...but for those that play after work, or on the weekends don't be surprised when your just getting into Oasis or Highpass and you suddently see a "Lady Vox has been defeated by Detoxxxx!" Sever announcement


4) Guide / GM scarcity + added stress


Think it goes without saying p99 is running on very minimal guide / GM staff currently. While this can certainly improve over time I can only imagine the added stress, petition surge, and amount of butthurt they will have to deal with when it comes to a new fresh pixel race (green99). Guide's / GM's are people too, everyone makes mistakes and everyone has different motivations and tolerances for different activities. So lets not forget that when Green99 releases for those that do decide to play on it, lets try to be decent to each other. If not for our own sake, then for the guides and GM's sake that have to answer petitions and make rulings all day.



5) Split Servers can = Split Community

Whenever you open up a new server you will inevitably take away from other servers. While I don't think the desparity between people rerolling and new players to Green99 would make the situation remotely comprable to Blue99 vs. Red99 population. Blue99 would most defiantly take a sizeable population drop...Now it could be a healthy population drop... or it could possibly spiral to a unhealthy population that's far too low as people rush to green for the "new hotness" gold-rush


Green99 will most likely suffer an overcrowding problem (possibly worse than blue99) While Blue99 will either sink to a dangerously low pop. or to a more healthy population than it currently is, tough to predict.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Originally Posted by Foxplay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like people should temper their expectations with some realism as to some of the problems that will happen upon a green99 release...not saying it won't be fun but thinking it will be all sunshine and rainbow unicorn fart's is overly optimistic at best


1) The Initial Rush

With any MMO or fresh start server release there is always an initial rush of people leveling in a competitive nature to "get ahead" of the curve of progress. On brand new MMO's its typically not much of a problem, the basement dwellers with no significant other or pesky job to maintain will break away from the crowd after the first 8-10hours rather easily (while others go to sleep, work, wife faction) they continue and the gap continues each day subsequently.


Now crank that dial from nolife playing a new game hes still learning to p99 neckbeard levels of ridiculous on a game that has been for the most part completely mathed out to near speed-running levels by some. You will see guilds / individuals sharing accounts on bards constantly swarming 24/7 leveling toon's and abusing zones to get ahead (They may have to sleep but their character never has too when its shared).


I'm not saying this competition rush is bad and can't be fun, but it should go without saying that a competitive nature over limited resources will at times bring out the worst in some people


2) Pre-Nerf Poopsock

A lot of the initial rush for some will be to lock down Manastone and Guise camp's / Locket & CoS after Kunark release / and Holgresh Elder Beads after Velious release. This will probably be even more coordinated in terms of guilds or players handing off the camp to their friends working in shifts to essentially keep it perma-camped for days if not weeks.


Again not saying it will be impossible for your average player to get in on them...but expect quite a lot of greed and less than socially savvy players to be doing the same trying their best to keep it for themselves as long as possible.


3) Raid Rush is already coordinated (probably)

For those that are fantasizing about a fair and clean slate in terms of raiding...


Don't be surprised when you see well organized, hardcore players from day 1 all working together. Its not going to be a "oh get to max level (50) and then start making guilds and see who does best" experience like other MMO's. It would be naive to not think that some of the more hardcore players / guilds already have a plan in place for a green99 release


While it may not be a perfect transition guild for guild, expect to see a lot of the same players on green99. This pre-planning structure and coordination will give them better chances and getting ahead and expect to see some very fast kill's on green99...that rush for raid pixels might be over before most players even killing goblins in highkeep


Not saying they wont earn it...but for those that play after work, or on the weekends don't be surprised when your just getting into Oasis or Highpass and you suddently see a "Lady Vox has been defeated by Detoxxxx!" Sever announcement


4) Guide / GM scarcity + added stress


Think it goes without saying p99 is running on very minimal guide / GM staff currently. While this can certainly improve over time I can only imagine the added stress, petition surge, and amount of butthurt they will have to deal with when it comes to a new fresh pixel race (green99). Guide's / GM's are people too, everyone makes mistakes and everyone has different motivations and tolerances for different activities. So lets not forget that when Green99 releases for those that do decide to play on it, lets try to be decent to each other. If not for our own sake, then for the guides and GM's sake that have to answer petitions and make rulings all day.



5) Split Servers can = Split Community

Whenever you open up a new server you will inevitably take away from other servers. While I don't think the desparity between people rerolling and new players to Green99 would make the situation remotely comprable to Blue99 vs. Red99 population. Blue99 would most defiantly take a sizeable population drop...Now it could be a healthy population drop... or it could possibly spiral to a unhealthy population that's far too low as people rush to green for the "new hotness" gold-rush


Green99 will most likely suffer an overcrowding problem (possibly worse than blue99) While Blue99 will either sink to a dangerously low pop. or to a more healthy population than it currently is, tough to predict.

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[Fammaden]

Yes, if you have dreams of camping manastones or being one of the first to kill Naggy/Vox but you also have limited playtimes, you're in for a rude awakening.

But if you just want a fresh start where the majority of the player base will be on equal footing it would provide that. It would take a long time for the current types of plat hoarding to build up. There won't be seven years of Kunark creating a glut of items/plat/epics and 60 alts. Basically you could have a sort of ALS experience without having to impose artificial restrictions on interacting with the rest of the community at large.

I think a lot of people here make the assumption that people are excited for green for the end game, when in reality many just want to see a reset on the economy, gear, and twinking. The effect it would have on the populations of the two servers remains to be seen, but right now culling some population from blue doesn't sound all that bad.

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by DiogenesThaDogg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

green sounds like fun, a lot of people want a fresh start. a new grind to conquer, you know.

Im not sayin Green cant be fun and all, I just dont see the point in hyping/guarranteeing it's release.
The intent is there, but it might not come to fruition. Like many things in life