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I would just ask that you look at that and ask why don't your leaders act more like that. Is it because the guild that came from the Fr/Ag alliance has it's roots in a desire to "destroy" another guild on the server? Do the pixels mean more to them than maintaining a good relationship with other top guilds? Quite honestly you seem out of place in that guild. | |||
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Here is my take on this. Why would you guys go through all of this arguing if there was no fault. Like just drop it, if you all are so confident. Move on
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It was more important for Fr/Ag to continue on to kill Zlandicar, Klandicar, and eventually Tunare (I forget if there was a 4th target in there as well), than it was to do the right thing and at the very least help CR a guild one of your members just wiped mid kill. You would've lost 1 or 2 targets possibly, during a single cycle. The cost to you would've been almost meaningless and the good will it would've fostered could've literally changed the entire outlook of the server. Lets play out the scenario of what happens if you all stop and help Kittens CR. So you come and help rez everyone and since you're right there and not in the middle of clearing growth it goes much faster. Lets say you help kill the dragon, maybe not your entire raid force but lets just say 20 people, or something like that. Maybe you miss out on a mob or 2 but now the divide that had started to form between Kittens and AG begins to mend. Maybe a bunch of kittens have their opinions turned around about Freedom being a bunch of assholes. Kittens doesn't petition, Incubo doesn't eat a (2?) week ban, and Fr/Ag doesn't have to concede LTK x2. You all come off looking like fucking kings that just went out of your way to fix something one of your members did. Maybe the Kriot alliance never even happens. Essentially your leadership chose short term pixel gain over the long term health of guild relations on the server, and this is a choice they make over and over and over and over. Cycle after cycle. To the point where you guys have been trained/impeded during the heat of competition, gone on to secure the kill of the mob, and still petition. It's happened at least a few times, but somehow Kriot are the only guilds that are angling for free mobs via petitions. Your guild wrote the fucking book on burning down guild relations for minor gains and now you're all so shocked at how it's coming back to bite you in the ass. The truth of the matter is that Quish doesn't want competition. If they did they would act like it and try and foster a positive relationship between the guilds at the top. You were founded with the goal of destroying the top raiding guild and now you're reaping the toxicity that you've sown. | |||
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Ok, I don’t think an officer led campaign to bully Straiker into deleting his character is “trying to be the real good guys” Nor is telling everyone “your Dad did a bad job raising you” on Fathers Day. Nor bragging about an “aggressive political strategy” to manipulate the server into free mobs. Now, maybe teaming with Riot against Vanquish only to step aside and let Riot have a free Vulak to themselves feels like a ‘good guy’ move to y’all. Except. Y’all have announced that your a serious raid guild who deserves to have input on the raid scene. Passing on a free Vulak without a single complaint to Riot for backstabbing you? That’s the opposite of skin in the game. And seems disingenuous to me. | |||
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Who gives a shit about the KRIOT alliance. Riot barely gets any kills any more, either. They wouldn't even be around any more if bag limits were not implemented. But the rest of us are laughing our asses off when Riot leaves Kittens out on things like Statue or Vulak or they choose to kill Tunare with TSS instead. WHO THE FUCK LET SMELLSLIKE WIN TUNARE LOOT? WHY WASN'T KITTENS THERE TO STOP HIM. | |||
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The father's day thing and the political strategy comment speak to the toxicity Quish was founded on and continues to foster. You can't do and say the things you all do, including creating this thread after training a raid force and winning the vulak in question, and not expect people to have unkind words. Quish is the worst bunch of sore winners and sore losers on the server bar none. You all make inflammatory RnF posts when you lose and when you win. Maybe you all just can't help but talk shit and foster toxicity. The relationship that Riot has with Kittens is ours alone and if you don't think there was a discussion about the vulak we solo killed without kittens then you're out of your mind. You have this idea that we just decided in the heat of the moment "nah fuck these stupid cats this is OUR vulak!" when that couldn't be further from the truth. Riot and Kitten officers do a lot of work to maintain a good alliance. I can't say what the specific decisions were that lead to Riot going it solo on vulak as I'm not an officer so I'm not privy to those conversations but you can bet your ass 100% I would've heard it from all the friends I still have in Kittens if there was a problem with how that specific kill played out. Thinking you know the ins and outs of our alliance and insinuating there was some great atrocity committed or that Riot callously backstabbed Kittens by taking a free Vulak solo is the very definition of breeding toxicity by spreading some made up false narrative then continuing to push said narrative post after post after post. Similarly to coming up with a completely made up idea of what one specific characters name may or may not mean even after multiple people tell you exactly what it means and exactly how to pronounce it. Your incessance with pushing these multiple false narratives reminds me a lot of the ending of The Messenger when Joan of Arc is being questioned about what lead to her leading the French armies and she talks about finding the sword in a field. Maybe a sword in a field is just a sword, not a message from god. You just offered me a seemingly sincere apology and in the very next post your back to spreading toxic false mistruths. Why do you think that is? | |||
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