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I agree with your sentiment but disagree with your approach here Loramin. Other professional jobs aren't injecting a new mRNA vaccine into your body, pavers are just fixing your driveway and electricians are getting your AC running. Its (literally) a lot more personal when a doctor wants to change something in your body.
Which normally I'd be fine with but the problem with anti-vaxxers in this specific case here is that we sort of have a chance to stop this disease if everyone in the world were able to get a vaccine and quarantine for a month. But the reality is that will never happen because of the logistics and at some point we need to face that we have too many dumb people on this planet, as you can tell from these forums. | ||
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While I don't deny that to some extent it is important to consult professionals or people who are more knowledgeable on subjects than I for advice and guidance, I don't agree with that in regards to my own body and health care. Much like everything in life there are good and bad in everything and science and western medicine has made incredible advancements in a ton of areas and it shouldn't be discredited. With that said though that doesn't mean they're always right and it's good to be open to that as a possibility and not put blinders on and trust everything 100% no questions asked. To be honest with you loramin I used to be a huge pro vaxxer. It took a personal experience where I had my baby boy die of sids 6 days after his 30 day vaccine appointment that it shook me and started making me question more. I too thought it best to trust the doctors. Now I know everyone loves to say coralation doesn't equal causation but perfectly healthy baby's don't just die and The vaccine insert did mention sids as a possible side effect. Now sure I'll admit nobody knows for sure if it was the vax that killed him but I believe it was. I also learned that you cannot hold vaccine manufacturers liable if a death occurs either or the hospital. You're right we're never going to convince each other and that's not my desire. I just want you to see that there are two sides to this and it feels unfair that my health concerns should go out the window for your health concerns. Where do we draw the line from my rights to your rights if not with our own bodies? Danth said something similar that resonated with me. Good chat loramin!
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Last edited by Evia; 08-05-2021 at 06:44 PM..
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It's a matter of calculating the risks. IMO, the risk of me unknowingly spreading the disease to some immunocompromised individual is extremeley low because of my lifestyle and habits, and I have yet to see any science that has changed my mind. There is also a calculated risk on the part of the immunocompromised as to whether or not they want/can get the vaccine or should be out among the public in their condition. | |||
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I'm sure you can imagine a few more similar examples, because that's a key part of what living in a society is: putting your life in the hands of others. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying our government is the perfect nanny! There's a wealth of historical evidence to the contrary (and as a white man I can't even point to some of the truly horrific betrayal by medical professionals in our history). Having other humans look out for your interests is a flawed way to live .... but it's also better than any alternative [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] When the perfect all-caring and all-knowing robot overlords arrive, maybe I'll change my mind, but until then we're stuck with each other: the only way we humans can get by is to rely on others' expertise.
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It's covered up pretty good as private but these guys get hopped up on serotonin n crash, get sick on the meds they get prescribed next. Quit. Go crazy for a few months and go on killing sprees. Also there is an MKUltra taping pplz eyes open and dropping keta n lsd in em with an ultraviolent version of Disney on loop. And releasing ppl armed. Then planting evidence so that the news creates a narrative. I'm not denying mass killing or shooting or downplaying guns the sheer number of them and their necessity is definitely a factor making this worse and enabling the black ops. And yes real ppl are dying n real shootings happening. The why and how is the lie. | |||
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america has the most mass shootings because we offer the most amount of freedom and people dont like each other very much.
the solution isnt to remove freedom. | ||
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