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Old 07-06-2015, 10:48 AM
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Cute girl shot and killed in CA by an illegal who was deported 5 times and they have NO RECORD of this guy at ICE or Homeland Security. Makes lots of people look like fools after they bashed trump. Thoughts?
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:03 AM
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:05 AM
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Most undocumented are not criminals. Hard working, too.
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:09 AM
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There's no correlation between immigration of any kind and increased rape and violent crimes.

http://www.researchgate.net/publicat...at_Perspective

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ey-assimilate/

And to clarify the second link before someone misunderstands my statement in lieu of the link please note that there is an increase of crime between first and second generation immigrants but even then it remains lower and in instances the same as natural born citizens.
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:14 AM
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Hard to make a correlation when you have no record of the people. Plus, illegals are more likely to not report crimes committed by other illegals.
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:15 AM
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Most undocumented are not criminals. Hard working, too.
Only if you live in a huge house and they are mowing your lawn or washing your car.
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:17 AM
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Hard to make a correlation when you have no record of the people. Plus, illegals are more likely to not report crimes committed by other illegals.
You're wrong in this count as well, not only is there a lot of data but even if there isn't a sampling for the entire population there's enough for standard deviation.
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:32 AM
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please don't ruin debate season for me. I want to see Donald Trump sweat when asked all these questions live on TV.
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:40 AM
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Why do we want so many low educated foreign nationals in this country?

Why is this even a discussion.
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Old 07-06-2015, 11:43 AM
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There's no correlation between immigration of any kind and increased rape and violent crimes.

http://www.researchgate.net/publicat...at_Perspective

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ey-assimilate/

And to clarify the second link before someone misunderstands my statement in lieu of the link please note that there is an increase of crime between first and second generation immigrants but even then it remains lower and in instances the same as natural born citizens.
There is in Europe. Sweden (as an example) had one of the lowest crime rates in Europe til a lot of immigration from Africa and the Middle East. Now it's the rape capital of Europe.

Not saying immigration is bad, but it comes with certain other social/cultural problems that the west is very bad at dealing with at a government level.
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