Who lays claim?

[Wonton]

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DA trying to say that their "raid force" included members from outside their guild.

For those of you that don't know, and before you start spouting bullshit please listen. A raid force is 15 people(*see below). IF 2 guilds are camping a mob then its first come first serve. WHEN that 2nd guild shows up, if the first guild drops below 15 they forfeit their first shot. So you all please tell me what you think this SS means.

*This is where they gray area is.

It's gray because of this rule:
Q: What is a raid force?
A: For technicalities sake we will define a raid force as a gathering of 15+ people.

What is a gathering? in guild? out of guild? Can dark ascension hold a zone with 5 DA and 10 non tagged people?

Discuss?

[Desert]

it looks like 14 people in zone, but they had others not in guild raiding with them? they're part of the raid force imo. unless the rules specify Guild raid force.

I'm interested to see... because a loose coalition of random guilded people trying to raid things would definitely run into issues with this grey area.

[Modus]

I specifically asked you not to waste my time with this.

This is not a complete /who of the zone, and does not show unguilded raid attendance. We had 2 members of our raid, Squirly and Taichi, in the zone at the time.

Epic drivel, 'bro.

[Wonton]

Q: Can we continue to camp the raid mobs?
A: Certainly. If you want to have fifteen of your guild members sitting at every spawn site (six mobs to be precise) for 96 hours straight anticipating a spawn with the ability to mobilize not only those fifteen people but as well as any other required members to kill your intended target, all within the 30 minute time frame. By all means go ahead. I am sure after a few failed sessions due to not being able to mobilize quick enough, people won`t be willing to sit there for 4 days straight for months on end.

"of your guild members"

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[Wonton]

Please don't think this is a flame. It's a legit question and I am just looking for some clarification. In my above post that a direct quote from the rules posted by Nilbog.

if a GM or someone that knows something about this would respond instead of hip gangster wannabe's something good might come out of this post.

[Lill-Leif]

What is a gathering?

gathering (plural gatherings)
-A meeting or get-together; a party or social function.
-A group of people or things.

If you want to have fifteen of your guild members sitting at every spawn site...

If the above quote had stated "friends" instead of "guild members", would you interpret it as people being on your friends list, irl friends or just an example of a gathering of people?

[Modus]

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Please don't think this is a flame...hip gangster wannabe's

Go away troll.

We've tried many times to have fair, logical rules put in place that would avoid these circumstances altogether. Your guild has fought tooth and nail in opposition to reason, and you've proven you're only interested in rules that suit your best interests.

Here is our conversation minutes before you posted, showing both members within our raid force and highlighting your foreknowledge of the unguilded raiders:

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[Wonton]

You are just interpreting the rule in one direction. It can be interpreted many different ways, hence the reason of my post.

[Kinamur1999]

All the more reason these rules are horrible and need to be changed.

[Ihealyou]

We need EQ laywers. I start at 500p/hr btw.