Miscellaneous: Hammered Golden Loop - No Drop (?)

[Para99]

First off, it's confusing if we currently have both the Hoop and the Loop or if people are just mislabeling their auctions as Hoop because Loop isn't on the P99 wiki. As far as I can tell there should only be one version prior to Luclin, the Loop.

The 2001 evidence of the earring is scarce because it was changed so quickly after it was released, but there is an in era Zam Wayback Machine capture.

The Wayback Machine capture from 12/11/01 has it named Loop, it's No Drop, but not Lore. While that capture is after Luclin, the information for the earring has a last updated date of October 24 2001.

12/11/01 Wayback Machine Link

At some point, the Zam Loop page was merged with the Hoop page. Comments that are on the Loop Wayback Capture from 2001 are merged with the modern day Hoop Zam page.

There are two comments from 2002 that state it was previously No Drop and changed post-Luclin.

The poster "TruKing" congratulating someone on the second drop on his server would suggest the Hoop version wasn't available for long before January 2002.

Originally Posted by TruKing

January 04, 2002
First off the earring was changed so it is no longer no drop.....
<random debating of earring's value>
Gratz to shard on his second earring and 2nd one on the server.

There is another comment from September 2002 that references the name being changed, and it no longer being No Drop.

Originally Posted by Vermis

Sep 16 2002
This earring is now named Hammered Golden HOOP and is also now Lore but not No Drop. And have 8 STA, not 7. The other stats are correct.

Current Zam Page Link

The only thing I see that supports Loop being droppable is this Magelo page which was last updated in 2006. There isn't a 2001 capture of that page to see if Magelo changed it to be droppable between 2002-2006.
Magelo Link

Maybe someone else can find more info on it because that's really all I could find despite searching several sites.

[diamondfist]

people were also saying https://wiki.project1999.com/Pearly_Sarnak_Bangle should be no drop... havent taken the time to look it up yet

[Para99]

Originally Posted by diamondfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people were also saying https://wiki.project1999.com/Pearly_Sarnak_Bangle should be no drop... havent taken the time to look it up yet

Looks like it should be. The picture that is still on Zam to this day showing it was No Drop is also on the Wayback capture from February 2002 but again the page was last updated October 15, 2001 so that screenshot is from October 2001.


Pearly Sarnak Bangle Wayback Machine

It appears to be the same exact situation, it should be No Drop, not Lore, and it was replaced with an item with identical stats that was droppable/Lore with the last word of the name changed. In this case it was changed to Pearly Sarnak Bauble

Originally Posted by Nurtalbik

Aug 07 2002
Its called a pearly sarnak BAUBLE. Same stats as bangle, but not no drop and now lore.

Bangle Zam Link

Another comment from Arch Inspector's page suggesting the Bangle was No Drop and was replaced with the droppable Baugle "quite some time" before June 2002.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jun 29 2002
He now drops a pearly sarnak BAUBLE. Same stats as bangle just not no drop and now lore. Bangle hasn't dropped for quite some time.

Arch Inspector Zam

Worth mentioning several of the pre-Luclin comments mention wearing 2 of these, reinforcing that it wasn't Lore and was changed.

[Telin]

Currently only the loop is dropping and is no drop. Nobody should have the droppable hoop version. Please report if this is not the case.

[diamondfist]

Originally Posted by Telin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Currently only the loop is dropping and is no drop. Nobody should have the droppable hoop version. Please report if this is not the case.

@Telin

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=317343

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=317269

i havent seen a single link of it being no drop IG yet.

there are beastlord arms dropping...


small mansai plant isnt dropping ...

the nerfed verison of Cloak of Imperception is dropping

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=317376


all signs point to the clients default loot tables dropping, and not a classic updated version.

[Telin]

> Latest info I have on the loop is that anybody who looted a hoop early on patch day should now have a no-drop loop in inventory.
> The small manisi plant was missed and will be in next patch.
> Cloak of Imperception will have 10 charges pending update. The unlimited version probably won't be considered given that it had to be exchanged for the nerfed version on live.
>Will take a look and cleanup BST tagged items.

[Para99]

Originally Posted by Telin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

> Latest info I have on the loop is that anybody who looted a hoop early on patch day should now have a no-drop loop in inventory.
> The small manisi plant was missed and will be in next patch.
> Cloak of Imperception will have 10 charges pending update. The unlimited version probably won't be considered given that it had to be exchanged for the nerfed version on live.
>Will take a look and cleanup BST tagged items.

Thanks Telin.

(Any furious Loop/Hoop sellers - Genuinely sorry if you got screwed, did not think it would be changed between that fast between patches.)

[Senescant]

Still droppable, or linked as such just now. /time for reference in the chat box

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[Cheech]

Is the Pearly Sarnak Bangle droping at this time at all?

[Jan Jensen]

Originally Posted by Senescant [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still droppable, or linked as such just now. /time for reference in the chat box

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It was lore before, so... oops!