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Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No Jim. I know your positions by now and I know what you have problems with. Your viewpoints very closely aligned to establishment left. I’ve never seen you take or defend a right wing position. Name some you have.

Probably because right-wing positions are all garbage fear mongering with no sustainability.

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Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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In fairness as a dirty forin living in a dystopia I don't know how extreme USA would be on those everyday security / identity checks. I hear there is a lot of illegal immigrants who are able to easily naturalise or settle so the impression from that would be low security checks and profiling, but on the otherhand since 9/11 the institutions seem to be using fear as a weapon of contol on the populace so i guess it may swing the other way.

Do you need a lot of ID checks for setting up accounts for services, banking, voting, paying taxes, etc in the US?

I have to provide a birth certificate, drivers license, and social security number for just about anything. Usually 2 utility bills as well.

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Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No Jim. I know your positions by now and I know what you have problems with. Your viewpoints very closely aligned to establishment left. I’ve never seen you take or defend a right wing position. Name some you have.

I used to play right back, occasionally moving forward to wing in soccer if that counts?

I'm against calling criticizers of Israel as anti semites by default.

I believe in free market capitalism where competition can blossom.

Also I'm from the UK which pretty much invented unions, socialism, workers rights, etc and a european citizen so my idea of right is probably further to the left than your idea of left.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to provide a birth certificate, drivers license, and social security number for just about anything. Usually 2 utility bills as well.

Not to vote. Liberals bus around illegal immigrants to stat pad their votes and commit voter fraud. Liberals call Id laws racist so they can keep their crimes up.

Then they brag about winning a popular vote. Yeah no wonder. You fight to keep a damaged border so people can sneak in to vote democrat and then do it again after democrats bus them around.

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Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to provide a birth certificate, drivers license, and social security number for just about anything. Usually 2 utility bills as well.

Sounds on par for the UK. Can't believe they bother with less than that for Obama?!

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Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to vote. Liberals bus around illegal immigrants to stat pad their votes and commit voter fraud. Liberals call Id laws racist so they can keep their crimes up.

Then they brag about winning a popular vote. Yeah no wonder. You fight to keep a damaged border so people can sneak in to vote democrat and then do it again after democrats bus them around.

We're not talking about voting. Follow along.

Edit: voting was one of the things he listed, sorry.

Voting does not, and should not, require any sort of ID.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No Jim. I know your positions by now and I know what you have problems with. Your viewpoints very closely aligned to establishment left. I’ve never seen you take or defend a right wing position. Name some you have.

Also you constantly project US politics onto non US posters. Like we don't care about Demos vs Repos. Neither are our team.

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Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're not talking about voting. Follow along.

Edit: voting was one of the things he listed, sorry.

Voting does not, and should not, require any sort of ID.

Registering for voting does here. I'll attempt to vote with no ID tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Registering for voting does here. I'll attempt to vote with no ID tomorrow.

You can get registered to vote from someone with a clipboard in a mall parking lot.

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Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can get registered to vote from someone with a clipboard in a mall parking lot.

That seems rather alarmingly abusable...

(Right wing enough for you Teppy? Or is it left... I'm not sure)