Shaman creation

[Mythdar]

So, I'm creating at character creation screen trying to decide the optimal race for shaman (min/max) Ogre/Troll/Iksar?

[Itap]

Ogre

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[Swish]

Don't go iksar, all the penalty of a troll but with shocking starter stats and more kos than a black guy accidentally walking in on a KKK meeting. Not to mention no decent iksar armors til Velious!

[sykotic]

Iksar is definitely a rougher road but at least you're not a sack of fat... Play whatever you want to, race really isn't that big of a deal . Ogre or troll are best for Min/Maxxers

[Camulet]

Barbarian for win. max/min is for losers. Looking pretty is where its at!!

[phobus]

There have been a number of these kinds of threads lately. Hopefully this one doesn't devolve into the usual insults and BS.

Shaman is a really powerful class at high level, no matter what race you pick. Each has its benefits, either in racial traits or usable items. None of these is a "make or break" trait in most situations, in my opinion. Others' opinions differ. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Full disclosure: I play an Ogre Shaman. <strike>Fat bags of fat</strike> Competitive eating champions need love, too!

[greatdane]

Optimal? Ogre. Anyone trying to dispute this is an imbecile. Some prefer troll for the regen efficiency because they overestimate its value, but if you want the objectively optimal race, ogre is #1 without question.

[Growlers]

Overestimate regen on a shaman? Regen is key, Trolls are sexy.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Optimal? Ogre. Anyone trying to dispute this is an imbecile. Some prefer troll for the regen efficiency because they overestimate its value, but if you want the objectively optimal race, ogre is #1 without question.

Anyone who thinks an ogre is best is an imbecile. A slowed mob bashes once every 32 seconds. Half the time they kick instead of bash. Half the time they bash they miss. Half the time they bash, you are between casts anyway. So ogre stun immunity prevents you from 1 interrupt every 4 minutes or so. This is of fairly small value. And you can time your spells around bash if it's really a big concern.

No race has any gamebreaking or overpowered ability, it's all in how you play. All the best shamans on this server are barbarians. I've never seen an ogre or troll soloing anything remotely impressive.

[godbox]

regen at 60 is useless with topor thats just a straight up fact.
second ogre stun immune stops casting interrupts from frontal attacks. game over ogre wins at min/max from that + having someting like 40 extra starting stats

trolls win because they dont look like downsyndrom humans