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Old 04-30-2020, 08:40 AM
Plaguu~ Plaguu~ is offline
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Default DMO and the Green UN

A brief history of Green raiding and the UN.

January 18th, Lineage, Kingdom, and Black Lotus are on Teal competing for dragons, while Seal Team is on Green without competition and is ruling with an iron fist, holding down any valuable camp or target.

January 19th, Teal is closed and characters are moved to Green. 4 guilds are now competing for 2 raid targets and atleast 7 guilds are now competing for Fire Giants and Phinny. Teal and Green UN merge.

The UN is now crowded. A meeting is held to setup rotations for Fire Giants and Phinny because they are only 8 hour spawns, so theres plenty to go around to keep all guilds mostly happy. At the meeting Seal Team is asked about DMO for rotations, all guilds are informed to treat them like an alt guild of ST that just likes to RP, they dont want in on rotation slots or the UN.

Now, any guild is allowed to propose policy in the UN and is voted on by each guild. Every guild has a single vote. Kingdom's vote is the same as Ironborn's vote. Proposals aren't policy until they have a majority vote.

About a month into the merge, Seal Team has gotten most of the 7 day targets. Venerate, Lineage, and Black Lotus form NAFTA, an alliance to help compete against Kingdom and Seal Team. NAFTA does not succeed in killing any targets. Seal Team doesn't lose a single Nagafen since the merge, The only guild on the server with Bladestoppers is Seal Team. Eventually, Lineage starts competing by themselves again.

In an attempt to get free dragons, most of the competing guilds conspire to propose dragon rotations. The proposal passes swiftly but Seal Team threatens to leave the UN if dragon rotations are enforced. The competing guilds concede to keep Seal Team in the UN. A GM proposes maybe a bag limit system could work, where if a guild kills a target 3 times in a row, they can't compete on the 4th. Seal Team threatens to leave again If this proposal also passes. So now, Seal Team has strong armed their way to being the strongest voice in the UN.

Now for the part DMO come into play.

Two months later Venerate, Black Lotus, and Kingdom form an alliance to compete with Seal Team. Seal Team is worried, they have been losing a few targets here and there to Kingdom. They immediately lash out and sever amicable ties with Kingdom. Petitions are flying out left and right and elf court is being overwhelmed. Over 2 weeks Seal Team loses 3 Nagafens in a row, among other 7 day targets. The first Bladestopper to go to another guild besides ST drops. The very next day, raid clickies are nerfed across the board, bringing all raid forces down but some more than others. The only way Seal Team can fight this is to destroy the UN and turn everyone against eachother. They invite DMO to the UN, their ace in the hole. DMO proceedes to bombard the UN with RnF style nonsense and all around shittery. Seal Team claims "Its why we invited Dark Men of Odus to the UN this week to get them a vote" because of the alliance. DMO is stunned when their proposal for acceptance into the UN is denied. Mainly due to the fact Seal Team spent the first 3 months of Green telling everyone to treat them like an alt RP guild, and only invited them to the UN when they wanted an extra vote. After being denied, DMO continues their shit flinging in the UN and runs over to camp King Tranix. The first guild to encounter them at Tranix is Akatsuki, a new to the UN, mainly Japanese guild who hasn't done a Fire Giant rotation yet. Once the UN got wind of what DMO was doing another shit flinging fest broke out in the UN, where DMO made some very offensive remarks. After many attempts at appeasement to discuss bringing DMO into the UN, All of DMO is removed by a GM except for their guild leader who continues to not fight for a invite to the UN but to gain an extra vote for Seal Team.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:08 PM
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All threads with DMO or UN in the subject are table are henceforth just getting 1 star.

This is an elf forum. not political discussion board.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:24 PM
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In reality, DMO had been mulling over the possibility of trying to get raid slots, because we are a small RP guild. Many of our members are not hardcore and did not want to have to get all of the ST raid reqs to raid with them. Several members of DMO become disheartened and left due to raid reqs. DMO decides to attempt its hand at getting into the UN so our less hardcore members can get a shot and phinnys and FGs. Additonally after seeing many guilds band together during raids, yet each of then had a seperate UN vote, we realized our situation was no different from theirs in reality.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:32 PM
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In reality, DMO had been mulling over the possibility of trying to get raid slots, because we are a small RP guild. Many of our members are not hardcore and did not want to have to get all of the ST raid reqs to raid with them. Several members of DMO become disheartened and left due to raid reqs. DMO decides to attempt its hand at getting into the UN so our less hardcore members can get a shot and phinnys and FGs. Additonally after seeing many guilds band together during raids, yet each of then had a seperate UN vote, we realized our situation was no different from theirs in reality.
It sounds like you should be mad at ST and not the rest of the UN if ST just said you were an alt guild.

ST then proceeded to ruin their own reputations by vetoing UN votes and since you're their "alts" they ruined your reputation too.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:38 PM
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So the UN guilds that didn't get dragons voted to give themselves free dragons? Am I getting that right?

Seal Team's counter-offer of open server raids on every raid target in the game once-a-month sounds like a pretty sweet deal for everybody imo (Kingdom voted no). Also nice burner account.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:43 PM
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the first mistake is thinking we are part of ST other than allied, your second mistake is thinking we give a shit about elf reputation beyond our alliance and what the GM's think of us.

Everyone can see this is an obvious cover by the UN guilds giving a "timeline" of what is "actually" going on.

When in reality DMO was no voted because the above guilds have stacked the UN votes with threats and appeasments to the smaller guilds in the UN, confirmed by talking to some of them. the UN also no voted our suggestion that all guilds that ally given 1 vote, that would have solved my issue with being forced to vote against our ally. But it would have also nullified the above guilds strangle hold rigged UN vote.

Nice try at rewriting history though, people in these guilds have been snipping the propaganda put in your guildchats, specially kingdoms all day. The blatant lies you guys tell your members, specially the one were we are part of seal team because we are listed as raider status, thus meaning we are members is complete bullshit. it means we earn dkp on seal team raids. We think its more fair to be apart of a dkp system than random rolls. You know, how kingdom got the FTE's 2 weeks ago and recieved no loot and venerate has gotten everything due to randoms? we wanted to avoid that.

Anyways one of our members has been bored while we kill tranix. Enjoy.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:46 PM
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There's no way I'm going to read that diarrhea pile of ass hurt.

We claimed an open camp and responded in kind to hostility expressed towards us. You voted for this too.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:51 PM
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also my favorite line so far, has been "ST said you were apart of ST for all intents and purposes, so you can't join the UN". First off i believe you took this out of context to fit your needs to fit your argument. You know damn well now that we 100% arn't seal team. Yet you keep hammering this point.

So now that we have clarified we arn't seal team, you continue to hammer this point. Why? Because it gives you cover for your rigged bullshit. It is absolutely disgusting that you'd take a thing like the UN and twist it because you are losing and want to use any tool you can to attack seal team, meaning you hammer their allied guilds through vote stacking in the UN.

Thats what you are really doing. Getting even through political bullshit because you can't get dragons. Get, good.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:53 PM
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Consider blue
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:58 PM
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Menden even said ST and DMO are not the same. Not sure why that discussion is even around anymore. Unless you are calling Menden a liar, in which case I would take that up with him.
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