Ranger: Woodsman VS good DW combo

[Arm_Chair_Hero]

No reason to use woodsman in place of atleast swiftwind at 46+.

[Xaeophi]

Originally Posted by Alleriah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as I despise the Woodsman's Staff... It is actually going to perform much better at 30 - mid 40s opposed to the dual wielding. Now Dual wielding looks a lot cooler then looking like Master Roshi from DBZ which should be enough reason to just stick with the swords. ( But, Woodsman Staff will be better most likely ).
The reasoning of this is - Even though 11/18 and 12/20 are pretty decently damage and delay weapons you have to consider that:
Bonus damage increases the higher level you are ending at 60 which is like what.. 13?
At lvl 30 I think you either have 0 bonus damage or its like 1 or something.. You'll still do some nice damage with those weapons you have but you also have to take into account that your skill in dual wield is low and wont be activating as much as a level 60s would. Also.. Bonus damage does not apply to off hand.
If i recall - Dual Wielding usually starts taking the lead over Woodsman's staff somewhere in the mid - high 40s?

To answer your question though... If you're level 30 and already have some decent 1h weapons just save the plat/time. Don't buy the staff unless you just want to try it out just to replace it in 15 levels.

^^^ This should have answered the question. No reason to repeat.

Originally Posted by Arm_Chair_Hero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No reason to use woodsman in place of atleast swiftwind at 46+.

Sidenote, If you are one of the fortunate rangers to be rocking both epics at 46. This combo will suffice until 60. Slow Proc on main hand will make the biggest difference if you're trying to grind it out to 60.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Arm_Chair_Hero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No reason to use woodsman in place of atleast swiftwind at 46+.

I’m curious with 36% haste (CoF/CoCW) when a woodsman is out-dps’ed by an epic and 10/18 or 12/21 primary (Zek’s too rich for me but would be interesting as well). I’m 57 with a CoCW and a Woodsy. If I have the chance to get a stone I’ll certainly start the quest but as a 99% solo player the droppable liquidity is attractive. Theorycrafting does give a nod to 2h in many cases as well.

I guess someday I’ll be able to parse it against every other Swiftwinded 60 ranger and answer the age old question nobody is asking, “What if I was extremely lazy and never got my epic?”.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m curious with 36% haste (CoF/CoCW) when a woodsman is out-dps’ed by an epic and 10/18 or 12/21 primary (Zek’s too rich for me but would be interesting as well). I’m 57 with a CoCW and a Woodsy. If I have the chance to get a stone I’ll certainly start the quest but as a 99% solo player the droppable liquidity is attractive. Theorycrafting does give a nod to 2h in many cases as well.

I guess someday I’ll be able to parse it against every other Swiftwinded 60 ranger and answer the age old question nobody is asking, “What if I was extremely lazy and never got my epic?”.

Sell cocw buy stone MQ, have plat left over, grats on swiftwind and better haste

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you copy it and start futzing? When I was still active, I was planning on adding some more features (I think the forumla is hard coded to warrior numbers right now) and maybe even making it into a web app. Perhaps if I start up again, I'll try that out.

I just came across this post. If you ever want I could code up a wiki version.

Just imagine the simplest interface possible (eg. the user has text boxes to input level, weapon #1 damage/delay, weapon #2 damage/delay, and then it displays damage per second). Describe it to me, and then give me the formula to calculate everything, and I should be able to make it work.