How to fix end game raiding, and P99 in general

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shit that didn't happen.txt

Literally just your blubie fantasy of what you think happens on a PvP server. As was pointed out, you could have simply declared LnS and retrieved your corpse without incident.

Tired of seeing these liars come out of the woodwork and agitate against the overwhelming popular demand for a Teams PvP server.

Lol the interesting part is that I can't quite tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

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Mad: Bluebies are lying about their experiences on red and there really overwhelming popular demand for a teams PVP server and PVP in EQ is super fun for most people. Calling LNS is almost always honored by people on the red server. This also means I totally missed the overwhelming demand, which is always possible.

Sad: You know perfectly well that none of the above is true but are saying it anyway.

Bad: You can't tell the difference.

Sarcastic: Well done! 9/10 good troll.

[Tenderizer]

Originally Posted by Seungkyu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You log off Red99 forever, and months later you see those same guys complain on the forums the server is empty and dead.

eq pvp is the worst especially when boats are involved.

[Vexenu]

"Guise, EQ PvP sucks!" - People who never actually played on a classic PvP server and most of whom never leveled past 20 on Red.

Basically the same attitude as people who tried to play regular EQ but who gave up on the game after being repeatedly owned by decaying skeletons.

No one who actually played classic EQ PvP enough to have a worthwhile opinion of it thinks it sucks. They might say it's quirky or unbalanced in many ways, or that PvP gameplay doesn't appeal to them personally anymore because they prefer a more relaxed experience these days. But they won't say it sucks. Because it doesn't.

Sure, no one likes getting destroyed in PvP and having to CR across a continent. You know what else people don't like? Wiping at the bottom of a dungeon with no Rez in sight. But that's part of EQ. This is a game of risk and reward. That's what makes it fun and engaging. EQ PvP simply increases the risk and commensurately increases the reward of playing the game. It's bizarre that people simply cannot understand this simple point and instead just repeat this zombie-like refrain of how bad EQ PvP is, when by the same logic the game itself is also awful and punishing.

[Jimjam]

Vex you post just makes me think GMs need to get rid of corpse restorations. Let those adventurers rot; its part of the challenge of EQ.

[Vexenu]

I mean, corpse rotting was a real thing in classic EQ, especially early on. It was part of the game. It actually happened and players were always cognizant of the possibility all their gear could rot. People are way, way too attached to their pixels on P1999 for it to be favored here, though. Classic EQ is a pretty hardcore game and very punishing to the player, a fact that's largely been forgotten in the landscape of today's P1999 Blue server, which for a variety of reasons at this point is basically EQ on training wheels. Thoroughly unclassic.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ PvP sucks...



































...when you lose.

play a real pvp game you baby

[Seungkyu]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shit that didn't happen.txt

Literally just your blubie fantasy of what you think happens on a PvP server. As was pointed out, you could have simply declared LnS and retrieved your corpse without incident.

Tired of seeing these liars come out of the woodwork and agitate against the overwhelming popular demand for a Teams PvP server.

FIRST of all...LnS wasn't a thing when the server was new. NOOOOOOB! LnS was implemented to combat the people dropping the server like you were just drop kicked by me. *CRITICAL HIT*


Second of all, I wouldn't mind a teams pvp server, but clearly your in denial. Trump and Jeff Epstein were friends and partied together.

[gildor]

Do it like EQ2 did, make certain single targets contested (Vulak, Tormax, Yeli, CT, etc..) and instance the rest..

Let's the hardcores get off on denying pixles, and let's casuals have a life AND eq..

[snyder43]

Originally Posted by snyder43 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there are better way to achieve that, such as suspending/banning people who troll on the forums/in-game

Originally Posted by Seungkyu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I briefly tried red, and here's my my story. *Intro music*

You are a Paladin of Marr, on a holy quest around level 12. You wait 20 minutes at the docks to set sail to the Ocean of Tears. Time for adventure.

Everything is going fine until you dock at a port, suddenly you are blasted by spells! You try hiding in the boat, but the spells go through the hulls! You run up on deck and see that there is a caster with sow+ lev nuking you. He has a few guild mates on the island as well. Now you have a few options (choose your adventure!)

1. Run for land! Get gang banged on the island and die.
2. Swim for the ocean! Get chased down for 5 minutes and die in the ocean somewhere
3. Stay in the boat! Get nuked to death.

No matter what you do, you inevitably die and have a corpse run requiring you to wait for the boat again. Well seeing as your corpse is camped and your not the type to get mad you log off and grab something to eat. Watch a movie. Five hours pass and you log back in Red99.

You sit naked at the docks for the boat to retrieve your corpse. You get near your corpse and...You get nuked by the same guy Those guys are still there after 5 hours.

Repeat this experience multiple times. One time a guy camps you for 8 hours, you don't even know him beyond this experience but he camps you like he like he loves you.

You log off Red99 forever, and months later you see those same guys complain on the forums the server is empty and dead.

[Nexii]

They probably won't ever do blue -> red transfers, considering that they banned cross server platinum trades it is into quasi-RMT territory. Merger has the problem of duplicate names.

Points are valid though, blue is a mess mostly due to overpopulation. No amount of rules can really fix that problem. It's a hopeless try that just makes more GM work than throwing it all out and letting guilds come to their own resolutions.

Same with red and underpopulation. Overtuned content for the player population base won't be healthy long term.