Camps or no camps

[katrik]

I’m mostly interested in what would happen if the mods took a step back. Especially the raid scene. Which I believe they’ve threatened to do several times.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m mostly interested in what would happen if the mods took a step back. Especially the raid scene. Which I believe they’ve threatened to do several times.

They should do it for just a single day (or maybe week). The P99 Purge! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bardp1999]

Lots can go wrong when you are not actually clearing content and instead pulling dragons to the zone line. No CSR support would likely lead to raid forces camping on top of spawn locations and massive ninja looting fests.

[jazzman_so_fresh]

I have no theories or laws in my head, but here is what I think:
- one bard in DN getting upset you are killing 5 of the 21 spiders because he has them all camped... Bad.
- one person claiming 6s in WL... Okay
- a twink killing half of the hhk goblins is bad, but if a second group wants to form, well, there is no such thing as camping 20 mobs.

Orc 1 and 2... Those are literal camps with campfires!

[fastboy21]

You can't write rules that will force folks to be nice to each other...the best you can hope for is that they act according to the rules and they don't find too many ways to screw each other over.

It's a part of EQ...and it makes EQ a fun game. Occasionally you will get screwed by some jack ass (or even screw someone yourself). You'll also meet people and find out who is genuinely good, shitty, dumb, shady, etc. The mechanics of EQ allow folks to actually get to know each other (for good and for bad)...which is kinda the point of an immersive MMORPG.

In fact, EQ does it much much better than any other game I've really played. You can't throw the bathwater out without chucking the baby. EQ4Life.

[Jauna]

and people wondered why mmos moved onto instancing

[Bristlebaner]

I always preferred EQ as a straight free for all. If the game mechanics allow something, then it should be allowed. Don't need to police all this nonsense.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Multiple paragraphs
Are possible to be
Divulged in a single post.

Wisdom of the ages, this one posts.

[kylok]

Project 1999 Staff will not be defining what constitutes a camp.

That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders (or the room if there are no placeholders) cleared, within the same zone, do not die or log off. You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it. You cannot hold multiple 'camps' if another group wishes to contest one that you are holding. The player holding multiple 'camps' retains the right to choose which 'camp' to give up.

This seems quite clear to me.

[Toodles]

Originally Posted by JDFriend99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

.... we have enough of that in our own lives.

Originally Posted by JDFriend99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many and I mean many, of us are done governing for ourselves and getting upset when we are challenged or grieved by a few. Those few need to be watched and dealt with when a petition is sent.

You know what we also have enough of in our own lives..authoritarianism. Been to college lately?

The reason that older games are cherished is because they have character and part of what constitutes that character is the environment for adults to be adults and to come to agreements and arrangements on their own ; where your actions can have actual consequences and a reputation does have weight on a server where people have to interact daily.

It does not always work out, though better to have the option than not and hand over responsibility to a handful of individuals ruling from afar.

The online world is not a safe space and nor should it ever be.
This is something people have forgotten.

I bet if we could coral all the posts by people on matters of disagreements over ethics and mechanics, we'd find most of them were posted by blue players and not red. Go figure.