Objection : Server rez "Rules"

[completepts]

Short story :

Lvl 60 logged out, died while Linkdead.

Logged back in next day, ^ discovered I died, lost level 60 and went to get a rez immediately. Bugged corpse "too old to be resurrected".

??? Began a petition. Guide messaged me "we don't rez for that." Even though this is clearly a client/server issue.

What gives? At this point I'm just complaining sure, but now I get to waste hours correcting a game issue. This is ridiculous. Happen to anyone else?

[kitao]

First - that sucks.

Second - A guy I know did that and went from 60-> low 50’s. Maybe consider only the one lucky? .

[Robeazy]

Originally Posted by kitao [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First - that sucks.

Second - A guy I know did that and went from 60-> low 50’s. Maybe consider only the one lucky? .

[Savazuul]

Please keep in mind that you're playing a 20 year old game on a set of servers that goes out of it's way to recreate the "classic experience" as a core tenet of it's mission. Even going as far as to recreate or "unfix" bugs in the EQEMU project to keep true to the Classic timeline.

Dying and xp loss to things beyond our control is part of that classic experience you're in this game for.

As far as what merits or does not merit a GM rez, also keep in mind that the reason we are so restrictive on what sort of events/incidents warrant a rez is because it's not always very clearly a server issue. Outside of server-wide lag spikes or crashes, it is incredibly difficult to determine what caused a death. Without some sort of definitive proof, we err on the side of that classic experience where the death penalty is harsh, and that's what we all knew going into playing a 20 year old game.

[completepts]

While all of us know and appreciate we're playing a 20 year old hardcore game, this is bogus rationale.

It would be clearly noted in logs what killed the LD level 60 char at the WC rings. YOU have the definite proof, on your end (server/client). I'd also like to point out during our online discussion you mentioned this happens often, and what I stated above is true. So "we don't rez for that" and your response to the aforementioned problem on the server does not apply. This aspect of a bug is not legacy or original content, seems more like laziness and being unwilling to help fix a client issue honestly.

Maybe consider changing the rule on this one thing. Since others have experienced it?

Originally Posted by Savazuul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please keep in mind that you're playing a 20 year old game on a set of servers that goes out of it's way to recreate the "classic experience" as a core tenet of it's mission. Even going as far as to recreate or "unfix" bugs in the EQEMU project to keep true to the Classic timeline.

Dying and xp loss to things beyond our control is part of that classic experience you're in this game for.

As far as what merits or does not merit a GM rez, also keep in mind that the reason we are so restrictive on what sort of events/incidents warrant a rez is because it's not always very clearly a server issue. Outside of server-wide lag spikes or crashes, it is incredibly difficult to determine what caused a death. Without some sort of definitive proof, we err on the side of that classic experience where the death penalty is harsh, and that's what we all knew going into playing a 20 year old game.

[Savazuul]

Originally Posted by completepts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be clearly noted in logs what killed the LD level 60 char at the WC rings.

It would?

Problem number one, you're presuming facts with zero evidence.

Problem number two, when you /q out of the game, strange and unexplained stuff can occur. No one can know for sure what happened because you didn't camp out, and no one saw it.

All of the plausible explanations I discussed with you are related to the /q mechanism. All of which are classic, and none of which are bugs. You decided you didn't like this aspect of the game, and classified it as a bug on your own.

Next time, /camp. Problem solved.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by DNRTFM

/quit - Immediately exits the game. However, when you exit in this manner, your character has not 'camped out' in the
proper fashion, and he or she will remain in the game world for a short period after you have quit. Your character will
be under the control of the server, and may very well die while you are not there to tell it what to do. So only use this
command when you are in a rush to leave the game or are in an in-game situation that you can't get out of with the standard
sit and camp method. The risk you take when using this shortcut to exit the game is all yours.

May I suggest using

/camp server

And

/camp desktop

They log your character out to server select and desktop. They are both good.

Originally Posted by Savazuul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would?

Problem number one, you're presuming facts with zero evidence.

Problem number two, when you /q out of the game, strange and unexplained stuff can occur. No one can know for sure what happened because you didn't camp out, and no one saw it.

All of the plausible explanations I discussed with you are related to the /q mechanism. All of which are classic, and none of which are bugs. You decided you didn't like this aspect of the game, and classified it as a bug on your own.

Next time, /camp. Problem solved.

In fairness, sometimes when you attempt to camp after the client finishes the count down it crashes and you are treated as link dead instead of being straight up removed from the game.

[Synphul]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In fairness, sometimes when you attempt to camp after the client finishes the count down it crashes and you are treated as link dead instead of being straight up removed from the game.

This happens to me occasionally, but it's pretty rare. The best is when I go to log in from the character select screen and instead of going into the game the client freezes, but it still puts me in the game linkdead so I have to wait for the active character timer. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I can't say it's ever gotten me killed, though.

I'm a /camp desktop person.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

May I suggest using

/camp server

And

/camp desktop

They log your character out to server select and desktop. They are both good.

.

TIL there is a different way to /camp.

Been playing EQ on P99 for the better part 7 years.

What a wonderful day.

[Pootle]

Originally Posted by completepts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be clearly noted in logs what killed the LD level 60 char at the WC rings.

Why are you using /q at WC rings? just camp properly.