the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[starkind]

What if the power elites just want to use you as human shields against God's angels when they return?

[Jibartik]

If i cant vote in the nude then what are we even voting for here?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Gatordash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once democrats get everyone on the same page they will pass it at 1.5 trillion or whatever instead of the 3.5 trillion and the debt ceiling will get raised. Senators in states like Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, and West Virginia just need to be able say they reduced the spending so they have a chance at getting re-elected in their swing state because if they don't they are losing their seat to a republican come midterms.

The whole republican blocking thing is so CNN and Biden can get dumb people to think its someone elses fault.

And republican's aren't voting for it so when inflation is even higher next year they can say its democrat spending's fault even though if it was reversed they would do the same thing.

Spot about the debt ceiling. This has been happening like every two years. "Oh no America is going to default!" It was a bad norm established by Tea Party Republicans as a way to pressure centrist Republicans.

The stuff with the Congress is actually a lot more disturbing. The entire democratic party appears to be ready to pass these bills. The exception is 2 senators who are openly linked to the industries that want the bill to die.

Joe Manchin likes to put on a show, and that's all to be expected. However, there is no evidence that West Virgina supports Manchin's conservative policies. They favored the minimum wage increase that Manchin was instrumental in killing, for example. The show is for his donors, not his voters. It's also an easy excuse for corporate democrats. "We wanted to pass the bill but that dratted Joe Manchin bested us again." He's the fall guy and they like him.

Kyrsten Sinema is a different story. She was elected like 5 minutes ago, but is demanding the bills be separated so she can have one without the other. Unlike Manchin -- there is no track record to go on here, no insider relationships etc. She won't even articulate her problems with the bill in private.

Here is a write up on some of this: https://www.opensecrets.org/news/202...ball-spending/

Despite having similar sway in the Senate, Sinema’s financial support topped Manchin’s in the 2020 election cycle. Neither Manchin nor Sinema were up for reelection in 2020 and will face reelection in 2024, yet Sinema brought in a hefty $3.4 million between 2019 and 2020 and Manchin raised $718,000 in the same time period. Sinema was the 17th highest funded Democrat in the Senate in the last election cycle.

That's a creepy about of money for someone this new to DC. Meanwhile, the people that got her elected in Arizona are already starting to raise money and groundswell to have her primaried. The Democratic Party has been putting the screws on her through their contacts with with the state legislature -- which can even get her recalled. She, normally protected by leftwing media, is now getting a lot of criticism.

This doesn't look like a brilliant DC political maneuver if you want to stay in the Senate. It really only makes sense with the assumption that she has been promised a lot in the private sector after she tanks this bill.

She is an avatar of everything wrong with modern democratic party -- with basically no redeeming qualities. She is super woke, and guilty of calling sexism every time she is criticized. Meanwhile, she basically agrees with McConnel on fiscal policy. It's all about the debt (when its for you -- not me). She represents just one more step toward tearing down any semblance that representatives are anything except corporate fundraisers that go with the highest bidder.

[Jibartik]

I do agree that the debt ceiling is like north korea and all talk but then again I wonder what is up with the like debt to gdp being an issue and that's a new thing. Surely that number has to mean doomsday right?

[Whale biologist]

WV went from Trump+41 in 2016 to Trump+39 in 2020.

Let's do it! There's totally room to primary Manchin from the left.

This is a great plan

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WV went from Trump+41 in 2016 to Trump+39 in 2020.

Let's do it! There's totally room to primary Manchin from the left.

This is a great plan

If you can find some dude that wants to limit immigration and stop abortion -- but is STILL a progressive democrat -- then it could happen.

Not gonna though. Sinema is different because she is from Arizona and the rightwing christian thing isn't what it used to be out there. The other senator from Arizona is a democrat that supports the bill.

[blindedsoul]

Good lord fighting for what the majority of what Americans want (Basic democratic values) in every poll is not saying death to America wtf?! (Squad or not)

They push for 15 min wage, 60%+ public approve.
Free College 60+%
Universal health care 55%+ (Medicare asked question)
and paid maternity leave 60%+
Legalization of pot 63%+

There is no scenario of a platform on the opposite side even sounding normal when you consider the global community let alone such a radical ass backwards evaluation.

Source
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/majo...e-college.html

Can find more sources if you just find the polls its almost always the same even when fox polls which is nuts

Unless oh herk derk republicans who don't think govt has a function don't want it to work saying we cant have functional govt

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spot about the debt ceiling. This has been happening like every two years. "Oh no America is going to default!" It was a bad norm established by Tea Party Republicans as a way to pressure centrist Republicans.

The stuff with the Congress is actually a lot more disturbing. The entire democratic party appears to be ready to pass these bills. The exception is 2 senators who are openly linked to the industries that want the bill to die.

Joe Manchin likes to put on a show, and that's all to be expected. However, there is no evidence that West Virgina supports Manchin's conservative policies. They favored the minimum wage increase that Manchin was instrumental in killing, for example. The show is for his donors, not his voters. It's also an easy excuse for corporate democrats. "We wanted to pass the bill but that dratted Joe Manchin bested us again." He's the fall guy and they like him.

Kyrsten Sinema is a different story. She was elected like 5 minutes ago, but is demanding the bills be separated so she can have one without the other. Unlike Manchin -- there is no track record to go on here, no insider relationships etc. She won't even articulate her problems with the bill in private.

Here is a write up on some of this: https://www.opensecrets.org/news/202...ball-spending/


That's a creepy about of money for someone this new to DC. Meanwhile, the people that got her elected in Arizona are already starting to raise money and groundswell to have her primaried. The Democratic Party has been putting the screws on her through their contacts with with the state legislature -- which can even get her recalled. She, normally protected by leftwing media, is now getting a lot of criticism.

This doesn't look like a brilliant DC political maneuver if you want to stay in the Senate. It really only makes sense with the assumption that she has been promised a lot in the private sector after she tanks this bill.

She is an avatar of everything wrong with modern democratic party -- with basically no redeeming qualities. She is super woke, and guilty of calling sexism every time she is criticized. Meanwhile, she basically agrees with McConnel on fiscal policy. It's all about the debt (when its for you -- not me). She represents just one more step toward tearing down any semblance that representatives are anything except corporate fundraisers that go with the highest bidder.

I met her a few years ago. She came to a military fundraiser the agency I work for was putting on. I think we had some common ground that she was a runner. She seemed nice, but it was a super brief meeting

Dunno much more about her or anything about her policies though :/

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stop abortion

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by blindedsoul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They push for 15 min wage, 60%+ public approve.
Free College 60+%
Universal health care 55%+ (Medicare asked question)
and paid maternity leave 60%+

Free money and unicorns for everyone!

Edit: I find it deliciously ironic that these liberal universities are continuing to rip their students off and put them into lifelong debt with their tuition rates while pushing the merits of socialism on them