Awakened Banned 10 days

[Bellringer]

Originally Posted by kurtis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cliffnotes: Hjial carries Awakened to scores of FTEs over the past several months. Hjial gets guild a 10 day break for doing the alt tab meta game. Awakened, to "save face", throws Hjial under the bus and tries to get him to make some grand apology, essentially turning their back on someone that has been one of the main reasons for their success in races. Hjial tells Breaken to get fucked, and here we are.

You get your accounts back yet gimp?

[kurtis]

Originally Posted by Bellringer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You get your accounts back yet gimp?

I got my forum account banned for a month for saying mean things, so I can't even see what the petition says.

[Prismaticshop]

Originally Posted by farladar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My sodium levels are so high that I make tipos when editing fake quotes

[Bellringer]

Nah he was emulating detoxx

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Racing in a fixed race? Where people openly cheat? That seems like a terrible waste of time. Raato has raced a lot, and won quite a few, in Kael, so its not that he "doesn't have the balls", and CSG often have racers in ToV, but its always seemed very dumb "knowing" some people didn't play by the rules, and, guess what, we were right, they didn't.

For some people on this server, winning is more important than playing, and as long as staff feels thats the best possible raid scene, nothing will change - this week its alt-tabbing, next week its something else.

If the staff would just make sure every scenario is covered it wouldn't be an issue. Zero transparency means you don't know the racing "meta" so you're doomed to lose the vast majority of the time. Then sirken suspends one guild when both had been doing it and both admitted openly that it was an employed tactic. The whole thing is gross.

[raato]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sound truly mad and misinformed my friend. Seek help.

Hjial as an app had more fte's then lots of guilds in this server and alt+tab was not a thing back there. Wanna trow the guy name in the mud? do it with information and not biased QQ'in about fte races to try and estabilish a server rotation to suit your lazy as fuck casual needs.

Before you say something dumb like that, have the balls to come race. Alt+tab is beatable, several people who doesn't alt tab have beaten Hjial, Mistin, Detoxx in races. Belive what you want but its not this huge omg so fast exploit that everyone wanna belive.

I have been racing and got few KT FTEs as a proof and some ToV FTEs. All I know I have had alot more success in Kael (where alt-tab isnt a thing) than in ToV.

I do know how alt-tab jumping works and I know it doesn't give HUGE advantage, but it still does give advantage. And no matter how much you try to convince otherwise there isn't much chance for those who doesn't want to cheat against those who cheat.

Your comment just makes it even more look like Awakened leadership crucifies good players to save their own faces when they had full knowledge about the cheat and still didn't tell their players to stop using it after being asked to. And I don't wanna throw a guy in the mud for his leaders decisions, but seems like your guild wants.

[Junias]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your comment just makes it even more look like Awakened leadership crucifies good players to save their own faces when they had full knowledge about the cheat and still didn't tell their players to stop using it after being asked to.

You sure do like to talk a lot about things that you have zero clue on. Really surprising coming from a CSG officer to be speculating and flaming like this.

[manguard]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sound truly mad and misinformed my friend. Seek help.

Hjial as an app had more fte's then lots of guilds in this server and alt+tab was not a thing back there. Wanna trow the guy name in the mud? do it with information and not biased QQ'in about fte races to try and estabilish a server rotation to suit your lazy as fuck casual needs.

Before you say something dumb like that, have the balls to come race. Alt+tab is beatable, several people who doesn't alt tab have beaten Hjial, Mistin, Detoxx in races. Belive what you want but its not this huge omg so fast exploit that everyone wanna belive.

jesus please take a chill pill or something, your blood pressure has gotta be sky high with all that salt. Raato is one of the few CSGs actually putting our asses on the racing line and making shit happen.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Junias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sure do like to talk a lot about things that you have zero clue on. Really surprising coming from a CSG officer to be speculating and flaming like this.

This far from a flame raato. It doesn't matter if he's CSG or not, he's right. He doesn't sound clueless either. He sounds bitter knowing a few are ruining it for anyone not cheating....

[khanable]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the staff would just make sure every scenario is covered it wouldn't be an issue. Zero transparency means you don't know the racing "meta" so you're doomed to lose the vast majority of the time. Then sirken suspends one guild when both had been doing it and both admitted openly that it was an employed tactic. The whole thing is gross.

Aftermath probably didn't have any documented wins from alt-tabbing, which probably explains why they weren't suspended. Always did seem like you could do whatever the fuck you wanted but once it turned into a gain it was open for suspension. I still think both parties should get kicked in the nuts on this one, though.

And it's probably easier to just make a rule that outlines explicitly what is allowed vs what isn't - fuckery emerges from all sorts of unpredictable areas. I'm of the belief the current rule set was pretty clear to not be doing anything other than strafe running with sow and using your one stamina bars worth of jumps. If this wasn't clear to A/A then they're both retarded and should have known better based on what happened after shadow masks and rile jumping - two things not written down, but ruled against the spirit of the rule.