Klandicar attack/fear

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Note that Klandi may be flagged as a belly caster here (which is wrong I believe). When we were testing with wiz fire lure (-300 FR), it would only land when the wizard was directly under Klandi.

Yep he is a belly caster here. Is this classic?

Anyway, we used suicidal shamans belly casting to try and slow him. With full resist debuffs including bard for a lot of the time. We killed shamans constantly for at least 20 minutes trying to slow him and it never landed once. He should be slowable.

[Rallyd]

These 100-150 slows we casted were belly casted, this is just an assumption on all dragons that we make. He is not flagged as immune, but seems to have the Kunark dragon Magic immunity and this immunity was removed for velious. Slow should be a relatively easy spell to stick on Velious dragons who are not immune when Tashanian/Malo/Occlusion are taken into consideration.

[Nirgon]

Fully debuffed should be like 30% chance of landing or so if indeed it is a slowable raid mob

[Alunova]

Lowered his level to match other Velious bosses which should bring his resists and attack more in line.

Fixed, pending update

[wycca]

Originally Posted by Alunova [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lowered his level to match other Velious bosses which should bring his resists and attack more in line.

Fixed, pending update

Thanks! Looking forward to testing him when hes updated.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting videos. I think it actually helps show that fear resists are off.

In the first video, there aren't actually a ton feared, you can quite clearly see pretty much all the warriors and clerics resist it everytime - they assumidly have bards. The people running probably are bard-free. The person taking the video did not have a bard.

The second video has more fears, but there are still clearly 2-3 groups that don't get feared really. Most guilds in velious ran with 2-3 bards, so it also seems logical that these are bard groups, and that bard groups don't really have fear land that often. Velious, in terms of AE's, is often mentioned at how necessary bards were - this is why.

I think this actually helps prove that these fear resists are not classic. We have lvl 60's with 400+MR who are pretty much all fleeing with only a stray resist. That is quite clearly not what was happening on either of those Kland runs.

Ie, I think your videos make a good argument about how this fear landing so much is not classic.

Good points, and this doesn't even take into account that players back then were complete newbs. I played on a pvp server where resist gear was much more important and dragon fears were less of an issue. The average player on a blue server ran around in +str/hp/wis/int gear 24/7, hence the fears. I can tell you they didn't have bags of jac/diamond rings, bd earrings, wolfs bracers and tranni/frog crowns etc like our guild kept on us mandatory.

[Alunova]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can tell you they didn't have bags of jac/diamond rings, bd earrings, wolfs bracers and tranni/frog crowns etc like our guild kept on us mandatory.

By Velious most blue servers knew to keep and use resist gear. It was mandatory in my guild at least. Lets be honest ;P

Full set of resist gear and "always on" stable internet were our #1 requirements. The first 2 videos are both known hardcore raid guilds. They had resist gear on.

[R Flair]

Played on both server types up to end game raiding (wasnt much raiding on pvp servers early on) and half our raiding guild on pve server was cannon fodder until well into velious. It took them quite a while to learn what the avg pvp player knew since classic.

[Method]

Resists seem to be working just fine, Klandicar shouldn't just fall over dead he should be hard and take team work and practice to get him down, here is my logs from the past couple weekends of working on Kland, Feared x2 in about 10 attempts - 340MR

Wed Jul 16 20:31:24 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Wed Jul 16 20:32:00 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Wed Jul 16 20:49:01 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Wed Jul 16 21:04:33 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell

Sat Aug 02 13:27:51 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 02 13:47:44 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 02 14:10:03 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 02 14:10:40 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 02 14:52:24 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 02 14:53:00 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 02 15:08:47 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell

Sat Aug 09 12:29:29 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 13:11:55 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 13:12:32 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 13:33:32 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 13:34:09 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 13:51:42 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 13:52:18 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 14:25:06 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 14:25:43 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 14:26:20 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 14:26:56 2014] You lose control of yourself!
Sat Aug 09 14:26:56 2014] You flee in terror
Sat Aug 09 14:45:51 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 14:46:29 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 14:47:06 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 15:08:30 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 15:09:07 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 15:09:43 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 15:10:20 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 15:10:57 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 15:34:20 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 15:34:56 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 15:35:32 2014] You lose control of yourself!
Sat Aug 09 15:35:33 2014] You flee in terror
Sat Aug 09 15:36:09 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell
Sat Aug 09 15:36:45 2014] You resist the Dragon Roar spell

[PBRibbon]

Really nice looking resists for that fight! He is definitely a great mob to take down for ST keys. Pre slowing is always a good way to go with this one since he hits like a truck as well! Love seeing this work being done on Velious expansion!