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Old 02-10-2019, 01:04 PM
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Your use of the free market comment is incorrect, because the market in a game is not free nor organic.

A free market requires certain variables though most simplistically it needs competing entities and products.

Virtual markets such as these skew that because the entities(players) and the products( items) are unique in that they are not material or tangible and they are not competing. They're all selling at the same fake price because one person assigned it an arbitrary value literally over night. And nor where they a professional collector or was an appraisal done weighing all relevant factors( and trying to clone from some 'remembered' value of an item across all servers equally[?] from the original servers, is not only wildly inaccurate but also foreign as this is not the same market place).


The items have no real value and ownership, possession, maintenance or storage isn't factor. They also carry no overhead costs to try and sell. Profit and margin isn't a thing, as you have not outgoing costs.
And if you're going to quantify time spent playing as an overhead, then that's false because no one is playing only to acquire items and only to sell them to only make coin - unless you RMT.

It's also synthetic because sellers are trying to confuse and mislead buyers by using terms such as 'pre nerf' to try and explain the increase. You only do that when the asking price is not justified.



The only thing that's going to fail is your attempt to plat roll people.



What also is bothersome about this is guilds/events who do ring war and get the lance can often roll on it. 15k isn't a massive deal. Now, they'll forego that, and claim it as a guild bank item for 'guild funding' or some other excuse to line the pockets of the guild council.
Yes and No.

While there is no materials or labor or overhead costs required to "create" an item, there is TIME involved in obtaining it. And TIME is a COST.
Also, in RL world there are things called "antiques". They not produced and their supply is limited, but they occasionally digged up.
And just as well as in RL world, cost of the item can be inflated by aggressive advertisement/hype.
Just like in RL world is majority of people refuse to buy, the price will fall.

So - don't like it - don't buy it. If enough people will keep buying (even if you consider them fools), price will stay. Perfectly realistic to me.
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Old 02-10-2019, 01:40 PM
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Anyone who has 120k to waste on it bought 8 of them 3 years ago.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:39 PM
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Someone offered me a lance for a fungi. It begins.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:55 PM
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We need a paladin / SK expert to let us know how desirable this weapon is because I know warriors dont give a fuck about the lance
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:58 PM
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We need a paladin / SK expert to let us know how desirable this weapon is because I know warriors dont give a fuck about the lance
SK have piercing cap so it sucks for them. Think it does well for pally but only three people play those
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:04 PM
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Heres my take on it. They STILL drop, and will continue to drop. All the patch did was boost the DMG (big deal its pally/sk dps anyways). The number of 55+ chars who can use it did NOT increase with patch. Hence price should remain the same /shrug. But ya got like Boutiktard and friends who (in some twisted mindset) think its now a 100k item.

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Old 02-10-2019, 03:07 PM
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It does need to be appraised against its other options in the game. Using a warrior for example, it is the best piercing weapon in the game for them. Its stats and ratio place in in the top 15 best 2h weapons in the game for them and its one of the few droppable ones. Its easily worth 60-70k now.
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:10 PM
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Why would anyone even want that item with the lvl req 55 on it?

you cant twink with it, and when you can use it - you have access to better or comparable items.
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:17 PM
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2H weapons better than NLance for warrior:
2H blunt:
Shovel of Harvest, Rocksmasher, Facesmasher, Primal brawl stick
2H slashing:
Twisted steel bastard sword, Meljeldin, Guadralek, Ancient fire etched flamberge, Axe of the Kromzek Kings, Clawed griffon sword, Frostreaver, Primal battle axe and claidhmore
2H Piercing:
Primal war lance

So actually its the only droppable 2H weapon in its class, easy top 15 best 2handers.
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:53 PM
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Someone is already trying to trade a lance for an AoN lol
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