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Old 11-29-2019, 11:48 AM
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Like how all human clerics even good ones can get the paineel stuff.
pretty stupid that they made your deity choice irrelevant as long as you are in wolf form
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:06 PM
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"Dude, you literally killed a god. You're wearing their loot!"

Agnostic: "Hmmmmm, I still don't know"
"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"
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Old 11-30-2019, 07:23 PM
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Oh, let me also address your actual questions directly:

Erudite Paladin - Prexus has the best itemization and an easier epic. Quellious gets pretty much nothing. Prexus gets an awesome shield. Paladins can never be Agnostic.

Human Cleric of Innoruuk is actually one of P99's power combos. Later on in the timeline they get tons of clicky items that are powerful, including a snare necklace, a fear mask, and a helmet that grants deadeye. Bertox gets some of this but instead of snare neck its a disease cloud neck, which is a little crappier for a cleric.

Warriors of Rallos Zek, except for ogres and trolls, get a neat armor set. Also, anyone in the game who worships Rallos Zek starts dubious (non KOS) to velious giants. Minor bonus there. Every warrior in the game can worship Rallos Zek, except for Iksar who must always worship Cazic-Thule no matter what, and Dwarves, since RZ is considered their arch enemy.
That's pretty cool. Howsabout Dark Elf Warriors? Rallos Zek, Agnostic, or Innoruuk?
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:25 PM
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This server is overrun with erudites who foolishly picked quellious over Prexus. Do not add to this problem.
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:37 PM
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That's pretty cool. Howsabout Dark Elf Warriors? Rallos Zek, Agnostic, or Innoruuk?
Not Innoruuk. Rallos or Agnostic is great. Inny doesn't give much to warriors and inny plate has INT on it for SK's. With DE's Rallos will make you juuuuust barely KOS in some places where you aren't as Agnostic, but the RZ plate is cool.
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Old 12-01-2019, 03:40 AM
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I always thought the agnostic option was pretty ridiculous in a world where magic is a veritably real thing.
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In a sense it is like that but taken with a fantasy setting and we end up with stuff like Pratchett envisioned ...

Where the gods went to break the windows of the only known agnostic of Discworld just to spite him hehe 8)

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So here being agnostic is more like a MEH dont care attitude regarding divine beings more than atheistic beliefs.

EQ lore is quite complex, when you mix the Ethernere in it.

This is the copy paste of Vhalen on the Ethernere>

Death is but a doorway in this universe just as it is in many others. Ethernere is in a sense, an anteroom or vestibule to the realms of the afterlife. Norrathian, Trorsmangling, Cordanian, etc, all souls must pass through this dimension before going on or in some cases, returning. As with most dimensions, the gods have no influence here.[/p] [p]In the past, I have shared information about the little known realm of Ethernere. Here in this limbo, billions of souls can be found waiting to move onward. But there are forces native to Ethernere that have a life all their own, forces that may have existed or may have sprung from the lives that pass through here. These forces have come to claim the universal vestibule as theirs. Chief among these entities is the Harrowing Horde, the guardians of Deathtoll Bell Tower. These forces manage the existence around them and often have created laws that bind souls to the Ethernere for longer than any should be. We Norrathians will all see Ethernere in our time, but will we ever escape it? Most do, but some are held back by the forces of Ethernere.[/p] [p]Are the native forces of Ethernere the only obstruction that may keep a soul from passing on? No. There are powerful entities that can sometimes breach Ethernere and exist for long periods of time, unnoticed by the Harrowing Horde. These invaders come to the gray fields of Ethernere in search of notable individuals whose souls await their afterlife. Here is where such souls can be subjugated far more easily than within the realms of that afterlife.[/p] [p]The subjugation of souls in Ethernere can be performed in numerous ways. The reasons for such captivity vary. The Harrowing Horde has stopped such actions where souls have been used as such things as vaults of knowledge, spiritual batteries and in some cases simply to spite the soul from a glorious afterlife. There are many reasons for soul subjugation and not even the Harrowing Horde has seen them all. Pray to your gods that your time in Ethernere is brief and without complications.

So believing or not does not deter you from an Afterlife in Norrath, so agnostics perhaps do not care for an specific afterlife offered by their racial god for example,
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Old 12-01-2019, 04:07 AM
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Veeshan >Solusek >Bristlebane = Rallos = Brell = Agnostic > Tunare = Innoruuk > Other Good > Other Evil

I really really like this small scale.

Matches some of my own beliefs on the issue of religion in Norrath in P99.

Very nice!
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Old 12-01-2019, 03:29 PM
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Hello. I’m kind of curious about religion, the matter of such being which race’s religion is best for them? Besides Agnosticism. For example, is Quellious better for an Erudite Paladin to worship than Prexus faction and item wise, or is it the other way around? Innoruuk or Bertoxxulous for a Human Cleric when it comes to evil worship? How about Rallos Zek for the odd warrior?
Well the relationships between the gods determine how NPC's will consider you by default based on which deity you choose. You can get the general idea if you read about them on the wiki. This is of course combined with your racial faction, which matters just as much; Even if you worship an evil god, trolls might want to eat you because of your race.

To answer one of your questions; Prexus is a neutral god and Quellious is a good aligned god allied with several other good gods which makes her an enemy of the evil gods. In the game followers of Prexus are tolerated almost everywhere, even Neriak while followers of Quellious will be killed on sight by all worshippers of the evil gods.
On the other hand followers on Quellious will have good faction in places where they worship other good gods while Prexus followers are just tolerated.

The difference between picking a neutral god and being agnistic is that followers of the nutral god will have better faction in places where that god is worshipped if there is one and they will eventually also have access to special imbued gear (Not anytime soon though). Besides Prexus, Solusek Ro, Brell and Veeshan are other neutral gods that will eventually provide a faction advantage in certain places even though that advantage isn't always useful.
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Old 12-01-2019, 10:01 PM
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I really don't think ive ever encountered a gnostic atheist, but I wish I have. That would be an interesting point of view.
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Old 12-01-2019, 10:23 PM
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"Dude, you literally killed a god. You're wearing their loot!"

Agnostic: "Hmmmmm, I still don't know"
Well... If you can kill something then logically it’s not worth worshipping or acknowledging it’s “Godhood”.
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