A/A strategy finally worked after a few years

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Bones [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

completely false. The only real difference is the feeling of being rushed and mobilizing faster which requires more "effort" but certainly doesn't mean that no competition at all = completely effortless and free pixels. Even if that were true, which it isn't, aftermath gets more free pixels than anybody when they batphone shit and kill it at 5 am with no competition at all so don't try to play that garbage theory bro

the best part is CSG and Rustle are giving A/A more competition than they do each other anymore because A/A couldn't come to an agreement to not petitionquest each other and not cheat on FTE races. You guys are pathetic at best

Actually, CSG and rustle aren't currently giving anyone any competition... at least not in ToV. If A/A cheated FTE races then those competing CSG and rustle players would be petitioning it... 5AM EST is what time in Euro land? Are you suggesting that a group of guilds who can get 100+ to a raid cant get 30 people over the course of an hour, during their almost prime time hours?

What you're speaking of is the 1 hour lock out mechanic. Once you "race" for FTE and secure it you don't have to compete on the pulls. I would LOVE for them to bring back the instant FTE rules, so many people who left due to these stupid 1 hour lock outs would come back. Not to mention how much harder it would be to instant pull with the new leashing mechanics.

Its been shown that if you give any guild, even guilds like FoH days to kill something it will get killed. The problem is that even on live you never had days to kill something. Velious in era was a race and 90%+ of servers where people "remember" a rotation happened during Luclin or later.

[Rang]

maner be all like

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[Maner]

31 posts in almost 3 years. keep to the shadows

[Bones]

meh cant take your posts seriously [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] multi paragraph diatribe and completely avoided the main point of the whole "free pixels" thing but anyways 5 am est is like 11am-1pm for most of europe which is not even close to prime time

aftermath needs a new designated forum cheerleadercuck to white-knight them anytime anything even remotely negative is said about their guild that can actually makes sense

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by Bones [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

meh cant take your posts seriously

i dont read half of the shit any of you guys post, its like you just want to argue all day. its stupid

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Bones [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

meh cant take your posts seriously [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] multi paragraph diatribe and completely avoided the main point of the whole "free pixels" thing but anyways 5 am est is like 11am-1pm for most of europe which is not even close to prime time

aftermath needs a new designated forum cheerleadercuck to white-knight them anytime anything even remotely negative is said about their guild that can actually makes sense

Without any form of competition, ie a rotation, those pixels are free. They require no effort except to show up, and beating the actual monsters in Everquest was NEVER the challenge you seem to think it was. The hardest part 18 years ago was finding the monsters up in order to kill them. I remember multiple nights where there were 4 guilds waiting for Aary to spawn in ToV on Xev for example. When wiping means that you just have to rez up and get ready to try again, its pointless.

Does that help? it is the same thing i have said multiple times but you clearly just lack the comprehension to understand it. The only thing that makes raiding a challenge is competing with other players.

The moment you implement a rotation you will have the top guilds all split because you no longer need a roster that can field 30-60 people at the drop of a hat. You will have an extra long rotation that would see the actual population average drop because why play 4 weeks a month when you only need to play 1 week ever 2 months. If that doesn't happen then you will have the current guilds who team up asking for their own spots in the rotation as well, as we have seen from CSG in the past.

[Bones]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you clearly just lack the comprehension to understand it

I understand it just fine. You are just wrong. Every target still requires forming a raid and killing it. It still requires setting up balanced groups and CH rotations and having the proper resist gear, having a tank that knows how to position the boss, having dps that have half a brain and know how to not pull aggro, etc etc etc.

Ill also add I never once mentioned a rotation nor advocated it.


That said, if you raid on this server just to create artificial barriers to other guilds because you think the content is too easy on its own than you are a fuckin tool.

Insulting all the non A/A guilds by insinuating that they didn't deserve any of the kills they obtained during A/A's double suspension and that it was all "free welfare pixels" then making hypocritical claims like how much you love competition and that's what makes the game fun for you then A/A turns around and starts rotating stuff like Trakanon and CT/draco and pretty much almost every target that isn't based off the foot race 1-hour FTE lockout crap specifically to avoid competition just shows how full of shit you are.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Bones [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand it just fine. You are just wrong. Every target still requires forming a raid and killing it. It still requires setting up balanced groups and CH rotations and having the proper resist gear, having a tank that knows how to position the boss, having dps that have half a brain and know how to not pull aggro, etc etc etc.

Ill also add I never once mentioned a rotation nor advocated it.


That said, if you raid on this server just to create artificial barriers to other guilds because you think the content is too easy on its own than you are a fuckin tool.

Insulting all the non A/A guilds by insinuating that they didn't deserve any of the kills they obtained during A/A's double suspension and that it was all "free welfare pixels" then making hypocritical claims like how much you love competition and that's what makes the game fun for you then A/A turns around and starts rotating stuff like Trakanon and CT/draco and pretty much almost every target that isn't based off the foot race 1-hour FTE lockout crap specifically to avoid competition just shows how full of shit you are.

resist gear? keep demonstrating your lack of knowledge about the current raid scene while at the same time trying to talk about how much you think you know about it. There are maybe 5 fights in the game right now that you actually need resist gear for, and then its only MR. You can buy a full set of MR gear for under 5k plat, so difficult. there is no forming a raid on P99, there is now raid window. You just form groups and even then people don't even need to be in a group for the most part. You are just demonstrating your lack of knowledge when you talk about forming balanced groups in regards to classic EQ raid content. Setting up a CH chain? because having a macro where you substitute names next to numbers is hard? counting 1-6 is hard as well i guess?

I didn't say they didn't deserve them, i said that if you think killing a monster in classic Everquest is a challenge then you are mistaking. As proven by the fact that guilds who are not raiding guilds, and which have never stepped into the ToV competitive scene killed some dragons. Problem is it took them 4 days to do it, and none of them even attempted to dungeon crawl, which was the focus of their original complaints.

A/A is not rotating trak, and doesn't rotate draco... there are a total of 3-4 targets that A/A don't race each other for right now due to how many petitions stemmed from just those encounters. more misinformation from those a self proclaimed know it all. Its only hypocrisy to the uninformed, like you. What is funny though is even though its apparently common knowledge that A/A are rotating some things, these other guilds like CSG or rustle haven't even tried to capitalize on the fact that the A/A response will be slower than usual.

[FatMice]

Thank you Maner for clearing the air on this important topic.

[Llodd]

Csg did try to craw... ahh feck it, replying to Maner is a fools errand