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[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by NegaStoat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CDC basically admitted Covid 19 is the flu. No point to social distance. No point in wearing a mask. No point in getting tested if you have no symptoms. Suggests that vaxxed and purebloods be treated the same in public and in the workplace. Pretty funny joke for everyone that took part in the shot + booster craze.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...commendations/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/...cid=mm7133e1_w

Nowhere in either of the two links is the word "flu" referred to, so it would be helpful to copy/paste what exactly leads you to that conclusion. Changes in the national approach are based on current rate data which is more imprecise now than from the outset. More changes are to be expected in the coming months and years as the virus mutates.

[Jimjam]

I mean not only that, Ennewi, but the flu is a serious disease. There are annual vaccines. If you’re infected you stay away from others / try to stay in bed.

Luckily, just like the current situation for C19, there is a decent herd immunity established for the flu so, so just like C19 we can protect each other from the flu with basic hygiene (hand washing, personal space, catching coughs and sneezes, isolating if ill, etc).

I think regional differences as super interesting. In Greece they are still big in masks indoors. Go to a super market with decent air con at off hours and the 2 other customers will be masked. I found that interesting as Greeks tend to be very individualistic.

In Hungary however, mask wearing is basically non existent even at the busiest indoor crowds.

In UK the degree of mask wearing seems to depend on the time of day. When the grannies are about all the people tend to wear more masks. I think there are different sub cultures running on different routines.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nowhere in either of the two links is the word "flu" referred to, so it would be helpful to copy/paste what exactly leads you to that conclusion. Changes in the national approach are based on current rate data which is more imprecise now than from the outset. More changes are to be expected in the coming months and years as the virus mutates.

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a colorful drawing, from the CDC website:

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Read the fookin' legend, mates.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_BMJ
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2514

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that in the US there were 1.8 deaths from flu per 100 000 population between 1999 and 2019.8 The estimated death rate from covid was 217.54 per 100 000 in the US and 206.73 per 100 000 in the UK.

The global figure for the covid-19 death rate is estimated at 279 per 100 000 population.

In the UK the Health Foundation has articulated the difference in impact between flu and covid in terms of life years. “In a bad flu year on average around 30 000 people in the UK die from flu and pneumonia, with a loss of around 250 000 life years. This is a sixth of the life years lost to covid-19,” it noted.

It does reference Worldometers in the notes, which isn't considered the most accurate, but also contains other sources.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think regional differences as super interesting. In Greece they are still big in masks indoors. Go to a super market with decent air con at off hours and the 2 other customers will be masked. I found that interesting as Greeks tend to be very individualistic.

In Hungary however, mask wearing is basically non existent even at the busiest indoor crowds.

In UK the degree of mask wearing seems to depend on the time of day. When the grannies are about all the people tend to wear more masks. I think there are different sub cultures running on different routines.

Same with the different approaches of various governments and healthcare systems too yeah.

https://khn.org/news/article/hospita...data-analysis/

NOVEMBER 4, 2021
Overall, the rate of in-hospital spread among Medicare and other patients was lower than in other countries, including the United Kingdom, which makes such data public and openly discusses it.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...covid-00042378

06/25/2022 07:00 AM EDT
The Biden administration during the Omicron wave considered publicly releasing data detailing how prevalent Covid-19 spread was inside individual hospitals, but ultimately chose to keep that information private, according to two people familiar with the discussions.

The decision to withhold the names, based partly on concerns about duplicative data and partly on fears of embarrassing hospitals, denies patients the opportunity to steer clear of health systems with poor track records and allows facilities to avoid public scrutiny, patient advocates say.

Granted, the first article is older so the numbers might have changed since then. Practices def have, with all incoming patients being tested upon entry, but it still seems like the opposite would have been true. More transparency, a more informed public, fewer infections while in hospital care...but that was not the case. The U.S. is much larger geographically though with fewer governments and cultures in its vicinity, both of which could have exacerbated the spread of virus for the UK.

[unsunghero]

If you are in an at risk category, or even think you could be in an at risk category, then you absolutely should get the vaxx

If you are and your don’t then you should be required to read every slow painful death on the sorryantivaxxer.com site. The saddest part about that site isn’t the social media posts from family members expressing hope that things will turn the corner for their loved one and asking for prayers as their lungs basically turn to concrete. The worst part about that site is the fact it’s run by hateful Dems who mock the dead, while jerking off IRL I’m assuming. Nothing will make you lose faith humanity more than the comments section of that site

Unfortunately a lot of covid deaths are due to pure ego. Fat, older, smokers and/or drinkers who are in denial about how shitty their heath is bragging “I HAVE AN IMMUNE SYSTEM” on their social media before they catch covid and die. The type of people who still put “athletic” on their dating site profile under body type because they played a year of badminton in high school even though now they’re 50 and fat

[Arvan]

Originally Posted by Barnes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no, the reality is you either ignore latest information or you are just not capable of understanding it. So go back to the drawing board.

Drugs

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_BMJ
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2514



It does reference Worldometers in the notes, which isn't considered the most accurate, but also contains other sources.

That's quite a bit more useful but the spelling errors are numerous.

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[Reiwa]

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