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Old 09-18-2019, 06:07 PM
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A level 60 enchanter, needs only 1 partner.

A personal assistant.
Druid is preferred for quick mobilization and ez xfers to ec
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:17 PM
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With the current state on blue I think theres no doubt enchanters are the top overall soloers, but these things don't exist in a vacuum. It's going to be interesting to see how things go on green...are people going to be able to accumulate as much plat, as many clickies, etc. to go adventuring. Right now blue is clickyquest as crap, green won't be at least to start out with. Green won't have 1) timeline issues 2) accounts for sale 3) early exploitable bugs in server history (hopefully) 4) seafuries for easy pp 5)chardok for easy xp. If theres a huge population that sticks around for a while, maybe it can prevent people from racing out to huge level/equipment leads, and it could change the dynamic of how the game is played. Right now most of the guides on the wiki are geared toward playing on blue, but green could turn out to be much different.
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:18 PM
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Are enchanters the best and most exp efficient soloers, considering they seem to die a lot?

Or does that statement of them being the best have more to do with what and where they can solo.
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:29 PM
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Are enchanters the best and most exp efficient soloers, considering they seem to die a lot?

Or does that statement of them being the best have more to do with what and where they can solo.
Again none of this exists in a vacuum, it depends on the state of the server. Bard is unquestionably the king of exping 1-60 on blue. Enchanters can solo xp very fast from 51-60 which is probably at least 50% of the xp grind for most characters, so they're in a solid 2nd place I'd wager. On green if theres tons of people, bard might not level so fast and if dungeons are crowded enchanters might not be the fastest either.
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:31 PM
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The most efficient soloers for xp are bards and it's not even close. Good enchanters can level very fast soloing esp during their 50's but bards will be gaining entire levels in one pull at low levels and up to 20% of a level closer to 50 per pull.
A bard can dedicate 1 day in DN to getting 59.00 to 60.00 and itll happen

Enchanters are the best solo'ers in alot of situations because they are simply capable of soloing most mobs in the game. A bard may hit 60 first but even at 55 the enchanter is killing names in howling stones and soloing NG for gems
Shamans dont unlock this power until they get Torpor and even then we are not talking about the same magnitude of soloing.

An enchanter will out do a shaman in alot of situations because of how powerful charm is.
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:40 PM
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Again none of this exists in a vacuum, it depends on the state of the server. Bard is unquestionably the king of exping 1-60 on blue. Enchanters can solo xp very fast from 51-60 which is probably at least 50% of the xp grind for most characters, so they're in a solid 2nd place I'd wager. On green if theres tons of people, bard might not level so fast and if dungeons are crowded enchanters might not be the fastest either.
Ah, so we just need more of this
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You can still make absolutely true statements like "a cleric is usually the best duo partner", but please everyone stop saying "every", "always", and words like that, because they imply there's some grand universal truth about "the best". But when it comes to anything subjective in EverQuest, there is almost never just one answer that covers all circumstances.
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Old 09-18-2019, 08:04 PM
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Enchanter is the strongest solo class classic, kunark & velious
Enchanter + Cleric is the strongest duo classic, kunark & velious

Enchanters on every corner sellin evercrack
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Enchanter also gets enchant metal bar spells for that easy platinum on green jewellery crafting trade skill.
These will be in high deman classic-kunaruk https://wiki.project1999.com/Platinum_Fire_Wedding_Ring

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Actually you're wrong accept it. Complete heal turns any charmed pet (and enchanter) into a literal god. shhman are dead weight for any good enchanter, whom can slow. torp slows atk speed making pet less of a murder machine. FoS doesn't stack with shield of magi. The clear winner is Enchanter + cleric.
Yeah. This.

Malo on a pet, a slighty-better slow from a more tanky character, and more contribution to damage from the shaman? And I guess a gimicky ToT trick after Kunark launches? Those are significant. But not as significant as doubling a chanter's HP buffer, having fast-casting heals before the sham does, CH, rez (I mean, at least 1/2 of chanter deaths are because of the pull failing, at which point a cleric partner is a gods-send but a shaman partner is generally good for nothing), double invis trick, etc.

Ench+sham is awesome. Ench+cleric is better.

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Are enchanters the best and most exp efficient soloers, considering they seem to die a lot?

Or does that statement of them being the best have more to do with what and where they can solo.
There's some learning curve to chanter solo (or duo) without dying an inordinate amount. But it's not really a steeper curve than learning to play a bard without dying.

Yeah, yeah, a bard is great XP. I was the 3rd epic bard on blue, was swarm kiting (thanks Kelendil) before 99% of people even knew it was possible, played two more bards AFTER that one. But classic? Kunark when more than a dozen people know bards can AoE (or swarm) kite? It's not gonna be an XP garden of eden like it was 4 years ago.

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Lol you can keep thinking that. But maybe it’s you who’s the shit player. I’ve never seen a cleric root rot 5 mobs while enchanters pet kills 1 by 1 and has mana all day from them. But it’s ok, keep being an ignorant player.
Lol. What kind of shit enchanter needs a partner at 51+ in order to kill 5 mobs at a time?
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:10 PM
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i agree with "therealmd" and disagree with "demoraliser".

chanter/sham duo is way stronger than chanter/cleric duo. (assuming the people playing these classes are highly skilled)

chanter/sham is higher risk higher reward. sure, if u have a shitty chanter then chanter/cleric is better. (most chanters are shitty which is why most ppl believe chanter/cleric is superior which is not the case).

for example, chanter/sham can duo the rats in DN and chanter can charm a rogue rat pet to backstab while the shaman facetanks etc. shaman has way more utility than cleric.

again, like i said before, chanter/sham is higher risk / higher reward which is why most ppl don't do it cus u guys are shitlords.


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Old 09-18-2019, 09:19 PM
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I feel like someone just called the the reigning champ shitty.

How do we settle this?
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:19 PM
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