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Old 11-02-2020, 03:21 PM
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We all know the problem is the Trakanon target. No one on the server thinks that a rotated Trak will be viable for any raid force to rely on to get to VP. Guilds will have to win Traks to do that. Why Trak is important to rotate is it allows for things like the class specific BPs to be obtainable in era for players who don't have the means to raid like a 17 year old waiting to start college. The top guild(s) agreeing to provide that chance every month or two to the whole server doesn't seem like an unreasonable proposition. If we care about having a healthier server then I don't see what all the fuss is about. Especially when many of the open raid loot items are still won by top guilds anyway due to dice rolls. Denying Trak as part of the rotation is really just childish; more akin to a bully on the playground hoarding toys, than adults having fun with a bit of nostalgia.
Just start hammering them with petitions, they'll be sure to follow suit, then K and ST will end up suspended like blue and Ven and BL will enjoy a couple weeks of free Trak/Gore/VS.
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Old 11-02-2020, 03:22 PM
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So you want free loot? If the issue is you want to relive your 'childhood' memories without having to raid at inconvenient times why don't you go play TLP or god forbid Red?

If you're so worried about all the open raid loot going to the competitive guilds why don't you put forth some 'resolution' that only non competitive guilds can roll for loot at the open raids?
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Old 11-02-2020, 03:22 PM
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Just start hammering them with petitions, they'll be sure to follow suit, then K and ST will end up suspended like blue and Ven and BL will enjoy a couple weeks of free Trak/Gore/VS.
Honestly wouldn't break my heart; more time to get to 60 and level a lizard!
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Old 11-02-2020, 03:24 PM
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We all know the problem is the Trakanon target. No one on the server thinks that a rotated Trak will be viable for any raid force to rely on to get to VP. Guilds will have to win Traks to do that. Why Trak is important to rotate is it allows for things like the class specific BPs to be obtainable in era for players who don't have the means to raid like a 17 year old waiting to start college. The top guild(s) agreeing to provide that chance every month or two to the whole server doesn't seem like an unreasonable proposition. If we care about having a healthier server then I don't see what all the fuss is about. Especially when many of the open raid loot items are still won by top guilds anyway due to dice rolls. Denying Trak as part of the rotation is really just childish; more akin to a bully on the playground hoarding toys, than adults having fun with a bit of nostalgia.
Compete for trak and win, or wait til Velious and I’m sure it will be a charity dragon then. The fact that anyone expects any 7D dragon to be rotated for no reason other than we can’t compete to win is silly, the toughest mobs in era have always been reserved for those that are willing to dig deep and compete. Maybe you should consider a guild swap if a class BP in the next 6 months is the most important thing to you.
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Old 11-02-2020, 03:28 PM
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So you want free loot? If the issue is you want to relive your 'childhood' memories without having to raid at inconvenient times why don't you go play TLP or god forbid Red?

If you're so worried about all the open raid loot going to the competitive guilds why don't you put forth some 'resolution' that only non competitive guilds can roll for loot at the open raids?
I have 7day gear on my toons, so no, not really worried about missing out. I just don't like bullies that throw a fit over potentially losing out on some pixels. Gotta feed that zerg though. It really doesn't make sense to not throw in a Trak rotation if everything else is kosher. It's just elitism.

Again it's not like King/Vene/BL or anyone else would be able to use the couple teeth from a rotated Trak to build up a VP force. Regular Traks would still need to be won.
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Old 11-02-2020, 03:29 PM
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Extremely generous, considering how much effort Seal Team puts into the game relative to the other guilds on green. Put in the work, reap the rewards.

Some people just can't abide this and will always insist on more freebies.
Yea hard work for you guys to sit there all day drafting petition after petition
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Old 11-02-2020, 03:39 PM
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sounds like seal team is scared of having to compete in VP
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Old 11-02-2020, 03:41 PM
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“Feed the zerg”?

Do you guys forget that the green server teamed up to try and beat ST, who fielded like 60ish to most targets? Ok, now with Lineage we’re up to mid 90s.

But please don’t act like a server zerg wasn’t formed to try and unseat them, hypocrites.

ST puts in the work.

“Petition after petition”? What boogeyman story are your guild leaders feeding you?

As the consensus is, you want it easy? Go play on a TLP.
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Old 11-02-2020, 03:42 PM
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Seal Team has a few dedicated neckbeards willing to stand on the line and are also no doubt the best FTE runners on the server. This wasn't enough though for them and they tactfully swallowed up a few guilds they previously dunked on and ridiculed and fought with in the UN to make sure they had a zerg force of warm bodies to perma-camp legacy items for the start of Kunark. ST doesnt care about sharing raid content. Green is also in a very different stage of life than blue and on track to be much more toxic in era.
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Old 11-02-2020, 03:42 PM
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something something green is gonna be different. lol
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