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Old 12-01-2020, 07:47 PM
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Are all the other emulator servers operating under some agreement with daybreak?

if not how are they able to use daybreak's IP?
They are operating in violation of the relevant IP law ... as P99 did for nearly ten years.

However, it's a very gray area. P99 (and other emulators) don't copy any of the server code: in other words Rogean and Nilbog aren't infringing on Daybreak's rights, because they wrote 100% of the server code themselves.

It's possible that Daybreak retains a copyright on the API (outline) of that code: there's currently a Supreme Court case deciding whether APIs can even be copyrighted. But even if the Supremes decide they are (and god I hope they don't), I imagine it'd still be a hard case to litigate.

The real IP violation is in the client: technically it's all of us players who are violating Daybreak's IP (when we download Titanium) ... and the same is true of players on every other emulated server. Pre-agreement everyone just relied on the fact that no company wants to waste lawyer money tracking down individual players (just look at the RIAA and Napster ...).

The agreement simply made everyone feel safer, because it promised that Daybreak wouldn't do the thing they (probably) weren't going to do anyway: go all RIAA on every emulated EQ player.
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:08 PM
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Maybe they will only ask for green to be shut down so it isn't competing for their TLP players.
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:13 PM
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If they were actually worried about green siphoning players from their tlps they'd shut down green and just make their own green with the exact same mechanics and without all the gay ass new freeports and shit
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:20 PM
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They're making way too much money off their crap version of live servers to ever retort to old code/graphics (pre luclin)
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:36 PM
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Ya know, sleeping dogs and all that jazz?

I think we could try to be a bit more cordial. especially given the end of the stick we find ourselves on.
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:44 PM
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Hopefully they shut it down and no one else can get warder loot. Sorry in advance.
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:47 PM
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The real IP violation is in the client: technically it's all of us players who are violating Daybreak's IP (when we download Titanium) ... and the same is true of players on every other emulated server. Pre-agreement everyone just relied on the fact that no company wants to waste lawyer money tracking down individual players (just look at the RIAA and Napster ...)
So splitting hairs here. Since I (and I assume most others) purchased titanium long ago wouldn't that put us in the clear? Granted I don't currently have the box or the product ID but did at one time purchase the software I still own the rights to use it.
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:54 PM
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I purchased titanium when I started.
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:05 PM
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If they were actually worried about green siphoning players from their tlps they'd shut down green and just make their own green with the exact same mechanics and without all the gay ass new freeports and shit
Do you have any idea how much work went into getting p99 to it's current state.

We are talking 7 figures worth of programming and r&d
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:08 PM
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Do you have any idea how much work went into getting p99 to it's current state.

We are talking 7 figures worth of programming and r&d
I know [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Just trying to be optimistic, I'd hate to see this place get axed
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