Are Counter-Strike 2 and Guild Wars 2 a waste of time?

[Xylophaus]

With CS2, there’s still a fun side to the game, especially if you're into collecting or trading skins.

[grims]

GW2 Pvp is pretty fun and can be played casually

Diablo 2 hardcore is pretty great too I like the modern graphics gameplay and loot system is fantastic but I really dislike the balance changes they made with sunder charms. Game used to encourage grouping for diff damage types. They essentially turned one of my favorite multiplayer games optimized for grouping to optimized for solo rewards