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[Byrjun]

Not sure if attacking Rogean is the best course of action right now.

[Millburn]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He was talking to rogean not you. If ROGEAN wanted us to have a rotation etc... it would happen.

His point still stands, you weren't actually open to ideas because the people who were presenting them were not taken seriously or shot down. The only reason why Rogean is any different in this regard is because he has the ability to force change. That's telling in and of itself that you defer to Rogean and nobody else when it's players not staff that participate in the raid scene.

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Recent Exploit

Recently, I found out via Rogean's inflammatory post that 2-3 TMO members who had access to a large number of TMO accounts used some sort of item dupe at some point in time on their own characters. Froovy and Internode are two that I have heard of so far (unfortunately members trusted them with access to many accounts, including one of my alt cleric accounts), I have not heard any other evidence implicating any other TMO members. Almost all banned accounts have nothing to do with any exploit. I am sure they will enjoy their no-eq christmas holidays thanks to Rogean's new hardline approach, banning unrelated parties.




In the past, we have dealt with things legitimately. We respect GMs and speak with you through the petition forums and proper channels. I am unsure why you are attacking TMO publicly rather than coming to the leadership and trying to get to the bottom of it. I would obviously assist you any way I can & remove any parties you informed me as cheaters. Banning 80+ unrelated parties seems like a personal vendetta more than anything. Especially when you do it while calling out the guild name, saying we were lucky to not been disbanded. TMO has been playing here since when the server pop was in the low 100s. We have been helping with promoting & classicizing the server for years; perhaps we have dominated the raid scene, but we have contributed as much as we can to bug reports and making this server the classic experience Nilbog envisions.

Real Money Trading



As far as I am aware, 1 ex-TMO named Crazyeyes the King of Thieves was caught for this recently. Totally caught us off guard, there's always been people who quit EQ and cash out, how can you hold a guild accountable for that - One individual member who bails.

Why were no other guilds who had RMTers in it called out to the server? Once again seems like a targeted attack.

Raid Scene



In the past, wizard epic first had been ninja looted off of CT by an officer of a rival guild and nothing was done except a personal suspension. A VP ninja loot of an exe blade off silverwing also occurred in the past with a 1 wk personal suspension. The public announcement of disciplinary action against TMO and the actions of our crazy french Canadian SK(Who has already been suspended for weeks for the infraction - & has a 2month suspension), should have no connection if you wish to be consistent.




If you wanted TMO to change our raid scene approach, you could have asked and we would have been open to any ideas. It seems more like you just want TMO to disband or be severely hurt. This has only been an issue since the return of the players who left for EQ mac. I hope we can resolve this and you will remove the post attacking TMO for a few individuals actions.




Thanks

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Millburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

His point still stands, you weren't actually open to ideas because the people who were presenting them were not taken seriously or shot down. The only reason why Rogean is any different in this regard is because he has the ability to force change. That's telling in and of itself that you defer to Rogean and nobody else when it's players not staff that participate in the raid scene.

Why is that hard to understand? All previous #1 guilds on this server have historically behaved in the exact same manner when it comes to dominating raid content. The only reason we are different is because we have done it the longest.

I dont mind the haters, but Rogean should know that there is better ways to address raid concerns than this. And to reward a bunch of raid rule violating flunkies like IB and FE fresh off a legitimate raid suspension of 5 days after multiple raid violations is a complete joke. Impeccable timing.

[Millburn]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is that hard to understand? All previous #1 guilds on this server have historically behaved in the exact same manner when it comes to dominating raid content. The only reason we are different is because we have done it the longest.

I dont mind the haters, but Rogean should know that there is better ways to address raid concerns than this. And to reward a bunch of raid rule violating flunkies like IB and FE fresh off a legitimate raid suspension of 5 days after multiple raid violations is a complete joke.

Your predecessors doing it isn't actually justification for doing it yourself. You know that as well as anybody else does. This isn't some court of law that goes off precedence, it's a server ran by a couple people to relive an old nostalgic experience. Have some decency and play as such. See you in 4 weeks duder, have a nice holiday.

[Tann]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FoH didnt have wait 3 years in kunark.

So once the current content reaches a stagnation point of about 2+ years that gives a guild free reign to monopolize the majority of the raid content for the purpose of gearing up 10 alts each and only let those with small fortunes in on the "fun" via MQ's.

Brilliance! I'm sure Furor would've advised the same course of action.

[Pheer]

TMO continuing to angrily defend themselves and not understanding why nobody is taking their side

[Friday]

Learn to play nice or face the consequences. My money is that you get disbanded.

You heard it here first.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So once the current content reaches a stagnation point of about 2+ years that gives a guild free reign to monopolize the majority of the raid content for the purpose of gearing up 10 alts each and only let those with small fortunes in on the "fun" via MQ's.

Brilliance! I'm sure Furor would've advised the same course of action.

Its raid or die bro. If a raid guild doesnt raid... is it a raid guild? Of course Velious the proverbial carrot has been dangled in front of us for like 2years.. Ya beta out in a couple months ! winter is coming, winter is coming... oh wait now next spring?

[Langrisserx]

time to stand in EC jerking it alone, third person True Blue style... weee lookat me