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Old 07-28-2021, 07:33 PM
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Is Cinda's Charismatic Carillon enough to do the turn in or is the Ornate Velium Pendant a requirement? Wasn't sure if these two acted differently in how they added faction.
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Is Cinda's Charismatic Carillon enough to do the turn in or is the Ornate Velium Pendant a requirement? Wasn't sure if these two acted differently in how they added faction.
Your True Spirit faction needs to be somewhere between Ally and max Ally to do the tear turnin. I would advise just getting to max Ally to be on the safe side, unless you actually did the entire Shaman Epic quest without grinding specific sections. I don't think there is any reliable way to determine how far into Ally you are, unless you counted all the faction you have gained accurately.
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Your True Spirit faction needs to be somewhere between Ally and max Ally to do the tear turnin. I would advise just getting to max Ally to be on the safe side, unless you actually did the entire Shaman Epic quest without grinding specific sections. I don't think there is any reliable way to determine how far into Ally you are, unless you counted all the faction you have gained accurately.
Yes, I'm currently working on maxing my faction, but I read that classes other than shaman have a -100 at max or something which requires a faction spell to bypass. I just wanted to know if I need the pendant or if my song is enough for that.
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Yes, I'm currently working on maxing my faction, but I read that classes other than shaman have a -100 at max or something which requires a faction spell to bypass. I just wanted to know if I need the pendant or if my song is enough for that.
Oh that is not how faction works. You do not get a permanent -100 forever from your race/diety/class. You just get a lower starting value for True Spirit than Shamans. Once you max out your faction, it is 2000, the same as a Shaman who maxed it out.

So basically when you first made your character, your True Spirit faction started a little bit lower than Shamans, probably -100 or -200 yeah. But you have gained a bunch of faction since then, so your starting faction value is now irrelevant, and never used again.
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Old 07-29-2021, 05:51 PM
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Oh that is not how faction works. You do not get a permanent -100 forever from your race/diety/class. You just get a lower starting value for True Spirit than Shamans. Once you max out your faction, it is 2000, the same as a Shaman who maxed it out.

So basically when you first made your character, your True Spirit faction started a little bit lower than Shamans, probably -100 or -200 yeah. But you have gained a bunch of faction since then, so your starting faction value is now irrelevant, and never used again.
That's awesome to hear! Thank you very much!
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