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Old 04-19-2023, 05:43 PM
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Old 04-19-2023, 05:50 PM
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Although the "up to a cap" is interesting, maybe nyclin knows something that I don't -- if the cap were close to the unmodded value for some of these I may not have noticed that there was any difference. Would be interested to hear what brought them to their conclusion that the instrument helps those.
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Old 04-19-2023, 05:52 PM
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Instrument modifiers (including Singing mod on epic) do:
- Increase haste values
- Increase slow values (up to a cap)
- Increase snare values (up to a cap)
- Increase HP regen values
- Increase mana value for mana adders (lvl 20 and lvl 32 songs) but NOT the level 55 song. Instruments only modify the HP regen for Cantata.
- Increase all raw stats and resists values granted or debuffed by songs
- Increases faction mod amount, up to an unknown cap
- Increase damage for both DD and DoTs

Instrument mods do NOT:
- Increase mez duration or reduce resist chance. The lvl 28 mez has a -MR component so this would be modified by instruments and would reduce resists after the first application, but the instrument mod does not strictly make it easier to land.
- Increase charm duration or reduce resist chance
- Increase duration of any songs, offensive or defensive
- Alter number of effects dispelled (dispel counters)
- Change distance travelled by Shadowstep-type spells
- Increase stun duration (lvl 55, 56, and 59 songs)
- Increase mana regen from Cantata, see above

Things I'm unsure on:
- Rune values from eg Shield of Song
- Mana drain value from some songs. Some use a flat -mana component, others use a mana-DoT. Given the logic applied to Cantata vs Chorus, I'd assume it affects the lvl 35 song (flat -mana) but not lvl 57 (mana DoT)
- Hate modifier on Song of Dawn
Not at my pc until tomorrow to check but can you confirm the pulse mana mod epic? Seems a bit op to pulse modded mana
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Old 04-19-2023, 07:09 PM
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Instrument mods also lower the aggro range on the lull song
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Old 04-20-2023, 02:49 PM
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- Increase haste values
I just checked McVaxius' Rousing Rondo by measuring the delay of my empty fist. Unfortunately both unmodded and epic modded McVaxius bring the fist down from ~36.1 delay to ~29.5-29.6 delay.
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Old 04-20-2023, 05:28 PM
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The haste or slow component of the song is not mod'ed but any other effects on the song, such as extra attack/str will be.

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Old 04-21-2023, 01:11 AM
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Haste, slow and snare, mana regen = can’t be modded.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Cassind...rus_of_Clarity
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Svs (and OOS), runes, damage shields, health regen, dots, directs, stats, run speed = can be.

I can’t recall effects of faction songs, mana drain, lull and the other niche ones.

I know there are some singing resist songs that the epic mods a ton without another option except Puretone. Psalm of cooling and warmth (fr or cr + DS) and song of mystic shielding (mr plus some other stuff). And the desperate dirge.
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Old 04-21-2023, 01:22 AM
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Classic sites have indicated that the string modifier had no discernable effect on lull in terms of radius or resist rate.
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Old 04-21-2023, 04:03 AM
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Haste, slow and snare, mana regen = can’t be modded.
Snare totally gets modded. It's most obvious when you ae indoors and mess up by hitting the ae snare with a horn on.
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Old 04-21-2023, 08:20 AM
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Snare totally gets modded. It's most obvious when you ae indoors and mess up by hitting the ae snare with a horn on.
its modded, just capped. epic will cap it, so 1.8
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