Is EverQuest one of the only MMOs where race mattered?

[WokeCat]

I always think it's interesting when I'm playing more modern MMOs and see people ask what race they should be for certain classes. And the answer is almost always "it doesn't matter what race you play, just pick whatever race you like the best."

But in EverQuest the experience you would have from playing an Erudite Paladin versus a Dwarf Paladin was massive. Not just stats wise, and night vision wise, but the areas of the game felt completely different. Almost like you were playing a completely different version of the game.

I can't think of any other MMO since EverQuest where your race REALLY made a huge difference, yet we still see this question asked all of the time and I can't help but wonder if the people who ask that question even know where it originated, or why they're still asking it 20+ years later even though it's never really been a factor in any other MMO that I've played.

[Encroaching Death]

I believe in South Park: Stick of Truth, the game would become much more difficult if you made your character black. (Erudite)

[unsunghero]

In WoW undead’s will of the forsaken was OP compared to most other racials and made them the min/max race for competitive arenas

That long with orc’s hardiness racial was the reason alliance claimed horde came to dominate pvp on the pvp servers but really we all know it was because we were better players

But IMO race mattered more in EQ

[WokeCat]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In WoW undead’s will of the forsaken was OP compared to most other racials and made them the min/max race for competitive arenas

That long with orc’s hardiness racial was the reason alliance claimed horde came to dominate pvp on the pvp servers but really we all know it was because we were better players

But IMO race mattered more in EQ

TBH wasn't the human racial more OP than the Undead one because it did the same thing, but for every form of CC, which allowed humans to use better trinkets? I think Human Rogues were considered good too because of the +sword skill or whatever? But it didn't feel game-breaking or anything. At least not to me.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by WokeCat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TBH wasn't the human racial more OP than the Undead one because it did the same thing, but for every form of CC, which allowed humans to use better trinkets? I think Human Rogues were considered good too because of the +sword skill or whatever? But it didn't feel game-breaking or anything. At least not to me.

I don’t think humans got every man for himself racial until later, like wotlk, it worked on stuns if I recall

I think in classic they had perception only, which did give them a huge advantage vs other rogues in arenas, basically always ensuring the human got the opener

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In WoW undead’s will of the forsaken was OP compared to most other racials and made them the min/max race for competitive arenas

That long with orc’s hardiness racial was the reason alliance claimed horde came to dominate pvp on the pvp servers but really we all know it was because we were better players

But IMO race mattered more in EQ

WoW even did it somewhat with classes too.

Priests got a different spell, depending on what race you chose.

Back in the day, if you were planning on going Shadow, it was better to be Undead because you actually got an addition DoT.

That's crazy. That's like Necro here though, you better choose Iksar or else.

[magnetaress]

Y is horde better?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Y is horde better?

On the original release of the game horde were actually the less populous faction on many servers including mine, which had a 1.5ish-1 ratio of A:H

This meant we were usually outnumbered in most world pvp fights while leveling up. So when BG’s came out which forced even numbers horde were more used to needing to CC during pvp to stay alive, etc

IMO

[WokeCat]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Y is horde better?

I been meaning to ask you if Dragonflight is "worth" it? It looked so dumb to me the second it was announced, and I just felt like Blizzard was doubling down on everything I hated about Shadowlands. The advanced profession stuff seems neat, but it's probably designed so players are forced to buy more WoW tokens.

I don't trust Blizzard to make a good game in 2022 NGL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Y is horde better?

Horde = Death Metal

Alliance = KPop

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