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[arvidez]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still, speaking in generalities without any facts (my preference lol), responsibility for a teen suicide is in order of significance: The teen’s > the teen’s parents > everyone and everything else. IMO

"they die" a psyche dr said in Raising Ophelia(i think) about the early teen years of the girls he was seeing. girls because i dont know.

i would take the teen's responsibly off the table. would be like blaming a toddler for a diaper rash or for eating the paint chips. i mean he IS the one who shit himself.

PARENTS>village is my take

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by arvidez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PARENTS>village is my take

pov when the village raises the kids

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[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Originally Posted by arvidez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"they die" a psyche dr said in Raising Ophelia(i think) about the early teen years of the girls he was seeing. girls because i dont know.

i would take the teen's responsibly off the table. would be like blaming a toddler for a diaper rash or for eating the paint chips. i mean he IS the one who shit himself.

PARENTS>village is my take

It’s a spectrum, the level of responsibility of the victim is proportional to age, to me

It is the parent’s legal (and we would all hope moral) responsibility to protect the teen. They are also the only entity which can sign the teen up for any formal treatment

But it is possible for a parent to be as vigilant as they can considering they also have the attention towards keeping the lights on and other various important things, and for a teen to still surprise them with a suicide

So then the responsibility goes back to the teen to be willing to tell someone. Even if they told their friend, a good parent would have that friend’s number and the friend could tell the parent. But if they don’t tell anyone, not a parent, not a friend, no one, and just do it, almost nothing can protect them at that point

To me, there is a “due diligence”. And it is possible for a parent to have done this and still lost their kid

[shovelquest]

I am a pacifist.

But I often wonder if I would be a goose stepping war criminal if I was born in a different place.

I really can't know. I really can't.

Ive had lots of opportunities to bash people growing up. You know, beat them up, drag them behind cars and stuff. And always stayed far away from that type of behavior.

But I blame my mother for teaching me good values. Idk. Idk if I was born down the road would I be a bad boy or be the same boy?

Did my mom really put an internal voice inside my head as a toddler, that I never wanted to hurt anyone, ever? Idk.. seems like bullshit and it's genetic.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Our work vans have these, making it basically impossible to rear end someone. Van will break for me

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our work vans have these, making it basically impossible to rear end someone. Van will break for me

Ive cut off teslas before because I thought this. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IDK how much truth there is to it, but I figure my odds of success are greater if I cut off a tesla than a buick. So I do.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am a pacifist.

But I often wonder if I would be a goose stepping war criminal if I was born in a different place.

I really can't know. I really can't.

Ive had lots of opportunities to bash people growing up. You know, beat them up, drag them behind cars and stuff. And always stayed far away from that type of behavior.

But I blame my mother for teaching me good values. Idk. Idk if I was born down the road would I be a bad boy or be the same boy?

Did my mom really put an internal voice inside my head as a toddler, that I never wanted to hurt anyone, ever? Idk.. seems like bullshit and it's genetic.

[arvidez]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am a pacifist.

But I often wonder if I would be a goose stepping war criminal if I was born in a different place.

I really can't know. I really can't.

Ive had lots of opportunities to bash people growing up. You know, beat them up, drag them behind cars and stuff. And always stayed far away from that type of behavior.

But I blame my mother for teaching me good values. Idk. Idk if I was born down the road would I be a bad boy or be the same boy?

Did my mom really put an internal voice inside my head as a toddler, that I never wanted to hurt anyone, ever? Idk.. seems like bullshit and it's genetic.

i read a story about a family who lived in a cave off the coast somewhere in europe a few hundred years ago. they were cannibals grabbing people from the beach. had you been born into that family...you would have to eat.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by arvidez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i read a story about a family who lived in a cave off the coast somewhere in europe a few hundred years ago. they were cannibals grabbing people from the beach. had you been born into that family...you would have to eat.

Idk like, I have toxic empathy. I can't not see myself as the bug. Maybe I would have ate until I was old enough to run away!

AI make a Disney movie that's like jungle book but about a cannibal boy that runs away to become a vegetarian prince.

[arvidez]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s a spectrum, the level of responsibility of the victim is proportional to age, to me

It is the parent’s legal (and we would all hope moral) responsibility to protect the teen. They are also the only entity which can sign the teen up for any formal treatment

But it is possible for a parent to be as vigilant as they can considering they also have the attention towards keeping the lights on and other various important things, and for a teen to still surprise them with a suicide

So then the responsibility goes back to the teen to be willing to tell someone. Even if they told their friend, a good parent would have that friend’s number and the friend could tell the parent. But if they don’t tell anyone, not a parent, not a friend, no one, and just do it, almost nothing can protect them at that point

To me, there is a “due diligence”. And it is possible for a parent to have done this and still lost their kid

i dealt with the trap of suicide ideation for a few years. i heard the wonderful phrase "i will, a will just, i am going to **** myself" literally every day, multiple times a day. they have no control.
you are right about keeping the lights on. i couldnt imagine dealing with that and the stress of keeping the lights on. i was lucky i guess. the hardest part was admitting the part i played allowing her to end up where she was.

due diligence = due suffering as you discover your very own unconscious evil.