<Aftermath> to Classic WoW

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Detoxx

I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals.

It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately.

Can't hack it anymore, off to WoW Classic while trying to spin one last "fuck you" at the guild that finally gave him some comeuppance. Aftermath responder DKP through the roof in this thread. Probably enough to buy something from those rotated mobs that Aftermath still gets.

[baakss]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mentioned these in the UN and in this thread repeatedly. Those mobs can still be contested and won with a minimal kill force. Is your guild capable of killing Dozekar? Tormax? Dain? Yeli? Trips? Doubles? If the answer is yes, turn up during the spawn window and go for it - you have a chance at winning it.

Nobody is contesting those mobs either. Trips and doubles maybe when both guilds are locked, but not often.

You're quite disingenuous.

[rebeccablack]

good attempt guys, going out with dignity intact certainly isnt for everyone

[feniin]

Kittens was at Triples, all alone, and Aftermath swooped in to take Zlexak from them.

[rezzie]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Probably enough to buy something from those rotated mobs that Aftermath still gets.

Not one standing rotation was proposed by Aftermath; two were forced on us.

Remember when you weren't killing any Tunares, or winning any ring wars, but felt your voice was just as equal as ours? Remember arguing that just because you weren't killing them didn't mean you should have no say?

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[smitho1984]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mentioned these in the UN and in this thread repeatedly. Those mobs can still be contested and won with a minimal kill force. Is your guild capable of killing Dozekar? Tormax? Dain? Yeli? Trips? Doubles? If the answer is yes, turn up during the spawn window and go for it - you have a chance at winning it.

Now compare that to the inner-ring encounters and the disparity between it. Your 30 man raid force is perfectly capable of killing Lord Kreizenn, but you will not win a single Lord Kreizenn when up against a guild who can engage Lord Kreizenn, both guards, potentially one or two trash mobs and dedicate a portion of the raid to kiting trash and keeping that train away for the duration of the kill. It does not matter how skillful your players are or how clever your strategy is: your odds of winning him are zero. Competition is zero. No matter what effort you put in to improving, your odds remain at zero unless you join or form a mega-zerg.

In the zone line era small guilds had just as much chance at winning FTE as any zergs and then pulling the mob in for a kill. If the guilds didn't have the infrastructure for COTH mages, they could snipe one of the frequently dropped pulls.

Guild diversity is healthy and a competitive environment is healthy.



The reasons are posted in the announcement and in the replies here. Just because you choose not to read them does not mean they are not there.

And again: regardless of motives, it's a win for the server. You don't need to pat us on the back. Just have fun!

Sure buddy, what about this gem tho?
https://imgur.com/a/9YQskxk

[feniin]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not one standing rotation was proposed by Aftermath; two were forced on us.

Remember when you weren't killing any Tunares, or winning any ring wars, but felt your voice was just as equal as ours? Remember arguing that just because you weren't killing them didn't mean you should have no say?

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[Aethor]

Im surprised anyone even entertains AM's suggestions anymore. You created Riot yourselves by shitting on smaller guilds and not working with us. You have suffered terrible losses and as such; The former dictators no longer have a seat at the big boy table. Let Arthion and *ity work with the casuals for a more polite raid scene that you never allowed.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Aethor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im surprised anyone even entertains AM's suggestions anymore. You created Riot yourselves by shitting on smaller guilds and not working with us. You have suffered terrible losses and as such; The former dictators no longer have a seat at the big boy table. Let Arthion and *ity work with the casuals for a more polite raid scene that you never allowed.

I’m sorry these guys hurt you , please don’t go home and beat your gf/wife for it. Sorry trump is your president. Sorry you have no warder loot. You are a victim don’t let anyone change your mind.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't need to pat us on the back. Just have fun!

Sláinte

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