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Old 10-23-2020, 05:03 PM
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I keep seeing this but nobody provides their expect opinion on how it could have been handled better...
I keep seeing this too. And gets asked and answered.

Very few people have expert opinions on this. And we don't listen to the people that do because, well, MAGA.

1. Do not disband/reorganize the CSHBU. That's the way we fought them over there so we didn't have to fight them over here.

2. Do not politicize PPE.

3. Do not seize PPE orders that states have paid for and reallocate/redirect them. And if you do, certainly don't send the gear overseas. And if you do that, certainly don't send the PPE to your creditors.

4. Do not lie to the public about the severity of the disease because you're scared a Wall Street panic response (which is coming anyway) will hurt your personal reelection aspirations.

5. Don't spread conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated claims about the efficacy of certain treatments -- you're not a medical doctor.

6. Don't be an overt racist so that every executive order you give on international travel and immigration is scrutinized by the courts and politicized by your opponents. Intent matters under the law.

Trump had a golden opportunity. Take command. Be humbled, measured, and calm. Call the American people together and rally us as a nation to endure and persevere. Doing just those few things gets you a long way -- ask Rudy. But no, he had to make it about him just like he does everything else.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:05 PM
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Yea!
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:06 PM
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3. Do not seize PPE orders that states have paid for by states and reallocate/redirect them. And if you do, certainly don't send the gear overseas. And if you do that, certainly don't send the PPE to your creditors.

Our first 2 shipments of foggers and ppe were stolen by FEMA

While they did pay us invoice cost, a fogger we paid $270 for was worth $999 and the waiting list was weeks, meanwhile all the schools and churches the paid us got dicked as they snatched whatever they wanted at the port.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:06 PM
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And I forgot the most important one of all...

If you make a misstep, stop, reverse course, and eat some humble pie along the way.

But he can't do that because his need to double down on everything is pathological.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:09 PM
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:09 PM
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They would have dropped the ball early on, but they definitely would have handled it better overall. Say what you will about democrats, literally anything was better than a country so afraid it had 100+ days of national riots and no end in sight to our shut downs, it doesn't get worse than that bud.
Well you lost me now, dropping the ball early on is the worst thing in a rapidly spreading virus. That is the critical point. You can handle it much easier if you are strict on the initial outbreak. You can say they would have handled it better on but that comes down to a matter of opinion and I just completely disagree. Democrats making themselves look good to their voter base with 20/20 hindsight vision.

Blaming the riots on Trump is an effective scapegoat in todays climate but there were many underlying issues leading up to the still ongoing riots that Trump had no control over. Also look at the people rioting. Its all liberals. They are literally exacerbating a bad situation into a much worse situation and trying to point the blame elsewhere. Conveniently leading up to an election where the liberals want the incumbent out so bad they are literally hoping he dies or someone assassinates him.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:12 PM
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Well you lost me now, dropping the ball early on is the worst thing in a rapidly spreading virus.
I didn't say that trump didn't also drop the ball, they just picked it up faster, he kept hemming and hawing and calling them wimps.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I keep seeing this too. And gets asked and answered.

Very few people have expert opinions on this. And we don't listen to the people that do because, well, MAGA.

1. Do not disband/reorganize the CSHBU. That's the way we fought them over there so we didn't have to fight them over here.

2. Do not politicize PPE.

3. Do not seize PPE orders that states have paid for and reallocate/redirect them. And if you do, certainly don't send the gear overseas. And if you do that, certainly don't send the PPE to your creditors.

4. Do not lie to the public about the severity of the disease because you're scared a Wall Street panic response (which is coming anyway) will hurt your personal reelection aspirations.

5. Don't spread conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated claims about the efficacy of certain treatments -- you're not a medical doctor.

6. Don't be an overt racist so that every executive order you give on international travel and immigration is scrutinized by the courts and politicized by your opponents. Intent matters under the law.

Trump had a golden opportunity. Take command. Be humbled, measured, and calm. Call the American people together and rally us as a nation to endure and persevere. Doing just those few things gets you a long way -- ask Rudy. But no, he had to make it about him just like he does everything else.
This is actually a good response with good points and not just regurgitate media talking points, and I don't disagree with most of it except the last past. Trump could try all he wants to call the american people together and rally as a nation (which he has if you actually listen to his speeches) but the left hate him so much down to their bones that it doesn't matter how much he pleads for unity.
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:16 PM
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forumquesters 4 prezident
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:18 PM
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forumquesters 4 prezident
when you gonna run for president and make steroids mandatory
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