Warriors are useless in 90% of the games content

[Videri]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My understanding of how this is supposed to work is that you attack with the offhand once per mainhand attack round. Since your two hander has a delay of 43 with a shovel, you effectively lock your offhand to delay 43. That makes scimitar the best offhand for this I'm aware of, since the long delay on the weapon is irrelevant and it has high base damage, effectively adding a 20/43 offhand dual wielded with the 50/43.

I'm still skeptical its possible to execute this, though. I would want to see someone do it or at least get a parse.

That is a common myth. Mainhand and offhand are on separate, independent timers.

But since there is no damage bonus for the offhand (like there is for mainhand), it does make sense to focus on ratio only for the offhand weapon, if DPS is the only goal.

[Samoht]

Yeah, they're on separate timers. Most of the time, offhand is going to swing almost immediately after you unequip main, so you don't have time to swap in a weapon unless it's already on a delay.

This just isn't going to be worth it under any circumstances (except being a monk).

[7thGate]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a common myth. Mainhand and offhand are on separate, independent timers.

But since there is no damage bonus for the offhand (like there is for mainhand), it does make sense to focus on ratio only for the offhand weapon, if DPS is the only goal.

The assertion is that the offhand, being on an independent timer, does not fire when the mainhand attacks or when weapons are swapped, but only when the offhand actually attacks. Because you're swapping back to the mainhand after attacking once with the offhand, the timer will recharge during the swapping process, and you only get one attack per mainhand round out of the offhand. If you have a faster weapon, you just recharge the offhand timer earlier while no offhand is equipped and the lower delay is wasted.

[PatChapp]

Warriors just bow quest in PvP.
Weapon swapping would be dumb, noone stands toe to toe in eq PvP. Swing your weighted axe, run away and fire some arrows

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, they're on separate timers. Most of the time, offhand is going to swing almost immediately after you unequip main, so you don't have time to swap in a weapon unless it's already on a delay.

This just isn't going to be worth it under any circumstances (except being a monk).

This is why the theory is you turn off autoattack before removing the 2hander?

[Ripqozko]

Did he find an aary parse to compare to mine yet?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did he find an aary parse to compare to mine yet?

I mean to be glib, but of course not.

I have the appropriate off hand, which 2hs would I want for my ranger? I’ll put it as a back burner project. Maybe 4 months time I’ll make some results.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean to be glib, but of course not.

I have the appropriate off hand, which 2hs would I want for my ranger? I’ll put it as a back burner project. Maybe 4 months time I’ll make some results.

He was saying shovel to do the offhand thing, my parse was with cek 2h with none of the swapping .

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean to be glib, but of course not.

I have the appropriate off hand, which 2hs would I want for my ranger? I’ll put it as a back burner project. Maybe 4 months time I’ll make some results.

For raiding there are only two: Shovel of the Harvest and Meljeldin, Bane of Giants. Mel is a bit better ratio with better combat stats, shovel has 100 raw hps and is a bit slower so jolts and nukes are easier to place mid-swing.

But outside raiding, Id prob get an Exquisite 2hs and call it a day past level 30. Same skill as the swarmcaller.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For raiding there are only two: Shovel of the Harvest and Meljeldin, Bane of Giants. Mel is a bit better ratio with better combat stats, shovel has 100 raw hps and is a bit slower so jolts and nukes are easier to place mid-swing.

But outside raiding, Id prob get an Exquisite 2hs and call it a day past level 30. Same skill as the swarmcaller.

I believe I have mel and the scimitar on Jimjam. I can probably test on him (warrior) rather than ranger.