On its dying breath, <Criot> cries enough to turn blue into Dice simulator 2022

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Riot was quite content when they were the controlling entity on the server and staunchly against allowing in new entities. They're not magically saints now that a different force is the controlling entity.

My comment wasn't directed at any specific guild or group. I don't give 2 shits about which 2 groups of neckbeards and their merry bands of warmbodies are doing what. It's been the same clowns doing the same shit since TMO/IB days. I'm talking server population by and large does not agree with or enjoy the way the endgame works on this server and they haven't for a very long time. Many continue to play in spite of it because they enjoy the game for other reasons

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you forgotten server history now? The C/R rotation showed that these "silent majority" guilds still weren't happy when given a bigger piece of the pie. When you removed competitive guilds from the equation, they continued squabbling amongst themselves.

That's what these people want. To weasel and Arcler their way to more loot rather than killing dragons. And what we learned from the C/R rotation is that this server is never going to tee up free loot for guilds just because they exist.

C/R was a clusterfuck for a variety of reasons. Nobody is asking for that back. Nor is anyone asking for "free loot". People are just saying they don't want to participate in 16 hours (per mob and every week or less for years on end) of staring at a screen waiting to run a pre-practiced (for dozens of hours) footrace to hopefully get FTE on a mob and probably still lose cause someone else was scripting or simply had better ping to the server.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to raid, you should have enough ambition to prepare for killing the targets you want and the skill to see it through.

This is Everquest we're talking about. Acting like anything on this server requires true "skill" is laughable at best. EQ is a game about knowledge. Very very little mechanical skill is required. As for ambition? I'd argue the lengths people are required to go to in order to get endgame pixels here goes way beyond ambition and borders on psychotic.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The intention of this server is not to coddle the "silent minority." The intention here is to be a nostalgia based server true to the original mission. And the truth is, these people would have never have been max level or had epics during this era.

The intention of this server as stated (ad nauseam) by the people in charge is to recreate classic EQ as closely as possible and serve as a sort of "museum" of what EQ was in the classic era. The list of "not classic" changes made to P99 is too long to count. Many of them are specifically tied to the endgame systems that you're defending.

[Viscere]

Root Dain / Kael

Remove rolls

Pixels foodstamps for elf blue collars and other sub par pecks (riot) have nothing to do on p99

[wagorf]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

changes like instancing and rotations.etc have historically been more popular than the alternative. Live EQ has more players than P99 and it always has. WoW at it's peak (instanced literally EVERYTHING) had something like 30-40x more players than EQ ever had at any point. The only reason EQ had open world "competitive" (lol) endgame raids is because they were the first major MMO of their kind and didn't know any better. Instances were added as soon as they were technologically feasible to do so and they never looked back. There's a reason for this. Competing for open world raid targets is statistically unpopular. It's a very small vocal minority that crows about how great it is.
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This guy spitting facts

[Viscere]

He wants a carebear version of p99

which is not going to happen, because that's how p99 is alive and thriving compared to all TLPs that have died, repeatedly

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Viscere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He wants a carebear version of p99

which is not going to happen, because that's how p99 is alive and thriving compared to all TLPs that have died, repeatedly

Well no. The TLPs die because they eventually get into expansions no one likes and then a new one starts and everyone goes and plays that one. Not saying I’m in favor of instancing because I’m not, but instancing isn’t why TLPs servers are eventually dead; if it was, no one would ever play each time a TLP comes out, but instead there’s tons of people playing.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by wagorf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy spitting facts

Yeah well the POPULAR alternative exists. A dozen of them for that matter, with a hundred billion subscribers.

All these billions of people press a button which launches their game and they log in and they're all in there. Then they press another button which launches a private mini-game just for them and their friends. That's popular. Launching two games to play one.

That's the modern MMOG paradigm. The open-world is simply a social meeting space so you can enter a private game. God forbid you should be inconvenienced or delayed or in any way bothered by anyone other than your select group of elite instancers. What's the appeal of that? It's literally going to your Steam friends, 'hey guys wanna play a session of Total War' and boom you and your friends are enjoying a private multiplayer game. But in MMOGS you replace that by a tedious process where you have to load and log into a complicated environment that is merely a gateway to another game. Oh look I'm in a fantasy world. You're not in a fantasy world. You're in a social meeting space for your next private game.

[SantagarBrax]

It's rather clear that some repetitive commenters here have never played live from launch, don't play now and just like trolling, and have no idea what's possible within p99.

Things are still being innovated now, even 23 years after launch and 12 years after p99. Some people are doing things that never occurred back on live, in era, nor here.

The true beauty of p99 is that there is something for everyone, no matter how much or how little time and commitment one chooses to invest. There is simply no need to lobotomize one particular experience over another and those of you advocating for just that are the truly selfish players.

[hotkarlmarxbros]

Originally Posted by Viscere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He wants a carebear version of p99

which is not going to happen, because that's how p99 is alive and thriving compared to all TLPs that have died, repeatedly

lol bro YOU want a carebear version of p99. youve literally done nothing of note the entire time youve played on this server other than log in and turn on auto attack. you are playing the most carebear version of the game ever, riding the coattails of others that are either cheating or wasting insane amounts of time in this game in the name of 'competition.' anybody who has participated in the competitive contrivance that is staring at your monitor wants this shit out. some want rotations, some want random, but most just want the engagements vulnerable to cheating to no longer be cheatable, however that occurs.

youre a walking embodiment of a clown emoji and i feel second hand embarrassment reading the moronic things you post.

[Graahle]

Originally Posted by Viscere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He wants a carebear version of p99

which is not going to happen, because that's how p99 is alive and thriving compared to all TLPs that have died, repeatedly

Alive and thriving

TLPs that have died, repeatedly

What's your experience with TLPs? Have you played one for longer than a week? Did you raid? What guild on what TLP? Or are you just regurgitating the collective P99 raiders' group-think opinion because it's cool to do here?

Instanced raids are literally what P99 needs to keep all of you majestically fat losers from screaming at each other all day on the forums and in the UN (UN for elf simulator lmfao srs?)

[Viscere]

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