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Old 02-07-2022, 02:04 PM
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Because this project is an attempt to recreate Everquest as it was, not Everquest as it should have been.

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Because, as Juiblex put it, the devs of P99 are recreating a game, not designing a game.
Unequivocally false. "P99 is EverQuest as envisioned by P99 Devs"

Item Links (didnt exist until the last patch prior to luclin launch)
Rogue Shroud of Stealth (pop class ability, you couldn't drag corpses in seb with just sneak/hide)
Melee and Stats (ie the entire game) are just guess work.
Resist checks barely exist.

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Thats sort of true…. Except for unclassic yellow text… and clicky/recharge changes… and /list… and rooting mobs… etc etc
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All of that pales in comparison to resist rates and mob atk values.

You can not resist half the ae's. Dragons do twice the melee damage they did on live.
Project 1999 is Rogean/Nilbog's idea of what EQ should be, to say otherwise is a grand exercise in abject stupidity.
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Old 02-07-2022, 02:24 PM
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Have to agree with Enji here...

oh, and if this game was easy, you wouldn't come back and play it for as long as we do. The difficulty is what keeps us around..
The hell levels in the 50’s is actually what kinda burned me out. Only logged in an hour or so in the past 2 weeks

Hopefully with enough time away I’ll want to come back to the drudgery
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Old 02-07-2022, 05:26 PM
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You might say that something tedious is difficult, for the reason that it is tedious.

It's not really difficult to walk accross the entire country, it's just very tedious.
A) both words are highly subjective and have no natural relation and are separate concepts

B) 100% you are finding a walk across the entire country both difficult and tedious. Don’t fucking kid yourself you loser
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Old 02-07-2022, 05:40 PM
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A) both words are highly subjective and have no natural relation and are separate concepts

B) 100% you are finding a walk across the entire country both difficult and tedious. Don’t fucking kid yourself you loser
People walk across the country every year, definitely not difficult, and definitely a tedious and boring grind.

would only be difficult if you are obese with a heart condition.
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Old 02-07-2022, 05:45 PM
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People walk across the country every year, definitely not difficult, and definitely a tedious and boring grind.

would only be difficult if you are obese with a heart condition.
Thank you for agreeing that’s it’s completely a matter of perspective.
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Old 02-07-2022, 05:55 PM
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would you say its hard to stand in camp and auto attack 4987 mobs till you ding 55
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Old 02-07-2022, 06:07 PM
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would you say its hard to stand in camp and auto attack 4987 mobs till you ding 55
And the other downside about trudging through the 50’s is the range of things that still gives xp continues to shrink

I didn’t mind like 35 hell levels because the entire world was available to exp in. A lot easier to keep things feeling fresh
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tedious or moderately interesting toiling
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Thank you for agreeing that’s it’s completely a matter of perspective.
All of everquest is just tedium, there is no skill involved at all, unless you consider reading and learning a skill. If you fully understand your class and its abilities, then you just do that same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over until DING.

EQ is not a skill game, its an information game. 1 dead orc pawn could ding you 1-60 why not? but then people wouldn't pay subs for years. So they had to make it looonnnggg and tedious, requiring thousands to millions of mob kills. They don't call it an XP "grind" because its uproariously entertaining.

The most "skill" intensive class is enchanter, a 2 second lapse can kill you/group/raid - But even on enchanter, in all situations, its nothing more than knowing which spells to cast, and the proper time to cast, and then doing so.

Shooters are closer to a game of skill. If you can 90 degree flick the mouse to a 4 pixel headshot in 150ms, then you have a skill, its something that many others cannot physically perform.

After that, even in shooters its a knowledge game. Operator knowledge, map knowledge.
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