most underpowered class in game?

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a really neat part of their kit, and it's cool when Pallies get to shine.

My point is more that all the classes are limited, and wizards are actually important to raiding, just not in the way he thinks they _should_ be.

Aye, fair enough. There are opportunities to deviate here and there depending on the target but mostly what's expected from each class is known and be ready to do it a majority of the time; trying to get overly creative with it often will just lead to death and ridicule.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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It's only if you time it badly AND the root doesn't go off AND your resummon gets interrupted by the mob that you need to kite (or use a root net or something). If you're playing well that should be a pretty rare occurrence.

Dang. If only Mages were popular! I could log onto blue and sell my old warrior's bags of useless root nets to the highest bidder.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by drackgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic Warriors just suck. Worst class in game in classic. Until they have Disc Knights just do it better.

Side note.. Will say if warrior gets haste sword from Fear.. They do become dmg machines for a short while. Wolvars warrior in kingdom did really nice DPS.. but thats like only way to make warriors decent pre kunark.

Warriors have dual wield, they can do way more DPS than a Pally, and more than an SK on p99 too (particularly on raid targets), since the pets can't have their attack speed increased from wielding a low delay weapon.

Warriors also have higher magic resist and HP, which used to be important for being able to fight raid targets. I guess that changed these days with everyone knowing how to get the best gear quickly, and other various learned things and different mechanics on p99, but back in the day other melee would be getting feared away or dying too much on Dragons/Gods, so Warriors were important there.

With lull being shitty in classic EQ, Paladin was definitely a weaker class. Rogue was also shit throughout much of classic (backstab did a lot less damage, sneak wasn't any better than invis, no evade).

[greatdane]

Dual wield is not top DPS in classic, especially if you don't get a dragon haste item and are instead using an FBSS when dual wielding compared to 36% when using a Monsoon or Sunderfury. Hell, even Mithril 2h is probably better. The damage bonus and dual wield skill cap at level 50 isn't high enough to make dual wield superior, and classic 1h ratios are really bad in general, PoSky come so late in classic that it's effectively Kunark content. The best 1hs a warrior can realistically have throughout the majority of classic is Blood Fire and something like SSoY. Monsoon/Sunderfury will outdamage that, especially if it also represents a 15% boost in haste for those who don't have a dragon haste item.

It's different for rangers who a) don't get any really good 2hs in classic and b) get better 1hs than warriors do.

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dual wield is not top DPS in classic, especially if you don't get a dragon haste item and are instead using an FBSS when dual wielding compared to 36% when using a Monsoon or Sunderfury. The damage bonus and dual wield skill cap at level 50 isn't high enough to make dual wield superior, and classic 1h ratios are really bad in general, PoSky come so late in classic that it's effectively Kunark content. The best a warrior can realistically have throughout the majority of classic is Blood Fire and something like SSoY. Monsoon/Sunderfury will outdamage that, especially if it also represents a 15% boost in haste for those who don't have a dragon haste item.

At lvl 50 the haste cap is only 70%, so as long they have a lvl 39+ enchanter haste even an fbss will bring to the cap

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dual wield is not top DPS in classic

Yes it is, you swap to an offhand weapon inbetween Two-hander swings.

[greatdane]

Who the fuck really does that? Come on, mate.

[magnetaress]

U guys are so one dimensional. There really isn't an underpowered class just an underutilized class.


And the class that is the least leveraged? Probably clerics ppl play them like heal bots. It's so sad. Yet clerics can be really powerful workhorses.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who the fuck really does that? Come on, mate.

I see alot of monks punching between T-staff/IFS swings, I do that too until I get tired of all the clicking

[Loadsamoney]

Weren't Rangers, and Hybrids in general, scorned vitriolically during Classic/Kunark? Someone actually made a chart for Rangers in Kunark era saying that, if you didn't take advantage of every little think, you should reroll, and if you DID use literally everything the Ranger had at their disposal, congratulations, you were a weak Monk.