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Old 08-11-2022, 04:52 PM
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Default Nortlav the Scalekeeper - Loot table incomplete

Description: Nortlav is missing Green Dragon Scales and White Dragon Scales from his loot table

Relevant NPC: Nortlav the Scalekeeper

Relevant Loc: The Hole, Yael pit

Expected Behavior: Drop appropriate loot table

Evidence Research:
Exhibit 1) https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3233
Exhibit 2) https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...8&p=3#comments
Exhibit 3) https://eqruckus.tripod.com/bard_epic_quest.htm

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Old 08-11-2022, 06:42 PM
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In your first source you expanded a redacted post on allakhazam and clipped it without the contradictory reply to it:
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...05545513669069
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no reference anywhere else says that nortlav drops this... all sources say he only drops the red scale
Your other sources seem to just be the fog of misinformation that is referenced repeatedly when searching the allakhazam post history for Nortlav himself around the time he was introduced and they hinted at the new source of green scales (which was Hoshkar):

3/27/2001
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...98572752313399
Quote:
When we killed him on Tunare, he dropped a red dragon scale and this Rusted Throneblade....anyone have any idea what its for?
5/3/2001
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...98894639712788
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I was on a raid on povar, and we killed him. ... We only got a red scale the time he died. ...
5/4/2001
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...98901334532762
Quote:
I keep seeing on different EQ sites that this guy drops White Dragon Scales, but upon further reading I've never heard anyone say that they _personally_ have seen him drop a white scale. It's all been wishful thinking as far as I can tell.

So has anyone here actually GOTTEN a white scale from Nortlav?
5/5/2001
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...98905473149226
Quote:
Took him down to chinatown tonight. Loot was:

Red Scale
and
Rusty Throneblade.
6/5/2001
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...99173008391394
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we got this guy for about 3 times now, and everytime only sword and red scale. i don't believe it anymore that he drops other scales too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
7/10/2001
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...m9947451634705
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[original post 7/10/2001]

Took him down 2 minutes ago. He was level 53 this time, dropped a red scale and the crap sword. I don't know where you got the info that he drops a green scale now, only place I've heard is Hoshkar. Can't verify that, but I haven't heard any other source mentioned.

[edit on 7/22/2001]

I have confirmed that Hoshkar in Veeshan's Peak does drop a Green Scale now. He is in fact the "new source" that was mentioned in the patch message on 6/27/2001. Before this time, the only known source of Green Scales was Severilous, the dragon in EJ. I have not heard of anyone who has ever killed Nortlav the Scalekeeper and obtained a Green Scale.
7/14/2001
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...99517197850838
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I've killed this guy 4 times with my guild. What we got only red scales and rusty blade, I don't think any other kind of scales could be dropped by him. Maybe the rusty blade worth more than the scale after quest finish.
I think this post is the most relevant, citing a long record of in-era kills and only red scales dropping:

1/6/2002 (referencing over 3 months in the past, so in era)
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...01035527058561
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I ran a series of raids for peoples epics that was well over 3 months. We killed him every time. Toss in the respawns that came with patches, thats over 2 dozen times. Every single time we killed him he dropped a Rusted Thornblade & a Red Scale

The rumor that he dropped the green scale started because Verant put "rumor has it there is a new source for the green scale" in one of their patch messages. They didn't say where. I heard stories popping up all over that it was from Nortlav then I heard some that it was off a seahorse in Kedge. Eventually, people found out it was from Veeshan's Peek, however that didn't stop the rumor that was already spreading like a wildfire for going on.

Now, I will say that it would make logical sense that this guy was a source for more scales then just the red. However, I have also never heard of anyone actually doing a quest to get any other colored scale from him. I've heard people yip yap, but never anyone that actually did it. Maybe it exists. As far as I know, it doesn't, and that comes from a fairly long experience in this.
I sympathize with the rarity of both scales, but I think you need to find a record of someone actually getting a non-green scale from him to get this changed.
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Old 08-11-2022, 09:10 PM
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01:31:39 Jan 06, 2002

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Body of the Lute

Get a large red dragon scale from Nagafen, Talendor, Zordacilus, or Nortlav the Scalekeeper.

Get a large white dragon scale from Vox, Gorenaire, or Nortlav the Scalekeeper.

Get 2 metal bits

Turn these 4 items in for the Body of the Lute.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010702....shtml?id=6364

15:27:52 Jul 02, 2001

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Nortlav the Scalekeeper
Monster
Picture of Nortlav the Scalekeeper
Minimum Level: 55 Maximum Level:55
Known Loot:
Green Dragon Scale
Red Dragon Scale
Rusted Throneblade
White Dragon Scale
Known Habitats:
The Hole
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Green scale By: Anonymous
Posted @ Thu, Jun 28th 9:23 PM Score: Good[4.00]
This is the new holder of the green scale, so now this makes him the most wanted mob for warriors in norrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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white scales By: Anonymous
Posted @ Fri, Jun 1st 6:33 PM Score: Default[2.00]
no one has answerd the question, has any1 ever seen him drop any other scale than the red one ?
im really interset in finding out, as a bard in a regular guild, capable og killing VS but not that big white dragon in dreadlands and not enough below lvl 52 to kill vox ?
klariace the bard
xev
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a thought By: Thyrome,
1 posts
Posted @ Mon, May 14th 7:55 AM Score: Decent[2.50]
as the gnome says he slayed many dragons with this sword, does it have a hidden goodie. like if u hit a Daragon with it, it does way more dmg ?

did anyone ever get a white dragon scale of him ?

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White Scale: just a rumor? By: Lejax,
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Posted @ Fri, May 4th 5:55 PM Score: Decent[3.00]
I keep seeing on different EQ sites that this guy drops White Dragon Scales, but upon further reading I've never heard anyone say that they _personally_ have seen him drop a white scale. It's all been wishful thinking as far as I can tell.

So has anyone here actually GOTTEN a white scale from Nortlav?

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https://web.archive.org/web/20011225...html?item=5856

07:45:45 Dec 25, 2001

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New scale drop Reply... By: Vinni,
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Posted @ Fri, Jun 29th 5:37 PM 2001 Score: Default[1.66]
In the recent patch msg there is a new green dragon scale drop....killed nortlav and he doesnt have the green scale (unless its rare)....rumor has it that it may drop from swirlspine guardians in kedge....maybe as a rare drop...its not confirmed though....there is a post on eqvault saying one was found on CT server. Anyone have confirmation yet?

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New scale drops off of... Reply... By: Brothar,
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Posted @ Sun, Aug 12th 11:59 PM 2001 Score: Decent[3.00]
Hoshkar in Veeshan's Peak. Don't really think this is a fix for the bottle neck in the warrior epic though.

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No green scale... Reply... By: Anonymous
Posted @ Tue, Jun 19th 6:12 AM 2001 Score: Excellent[5.00]
Nortlav does NOT drop green scales. He drops a red scale and a Rusted Throneblade every time.

Need to delete this entry so ppl don't get their hopes up.

https://web.archive.org/web/20010523...how&BID=410560

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Submited by: VladimyrTZ On: 4/12/2001 11:58:01 PM Rank: worst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 best
He is 54, and is a Like VS. He melee's for 250, but taps for 1600. Drops red scale and is rumored to drop white too, but so far no one has gotten one.(and posted about it)

VS tactic works, rune rune rune, he has tons of hitpoints, more then VS.

https://github.com/dbsanfte/eq-archi...tml/25839.html

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<b>Date:</b> Thu Feb 14 20:08:07 GMT 2002 <br/>
<b>Author:</b> Daniel Sniderman <br/>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [eqbards] Scales from other places.... (was RE: twisting 5, added note) <br/>
<br/><br/>
<div id="ygrps-yiv-1669308540">There's a Ranger website somewhere that claims Nortlav dropped a white<br/>
scale.
This causes this rumor to be resurrected from time to time - which<br/>
is frustrated - Nortlav dropping a white (or green scale) is an &quot;urban<br/>
myth
&quot;.<br/>
<br/>
Nortlav IS supposed to be a quest mob - but the quest has never worked.<br/>
Someone posted on The Concert Hall board that a GM verified it was broken.
<br/>
They thought they fixed it once - but they didn't.<br/>
<br/>
There was a rumor that on test a Named Golem in Chardok dropped a White<br/>
Scale
- but this was also never confirmed either.<br/>
<br/>
Slyde<br/>
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From: John Grady [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:john_grady@...">john_grady@...</a>]<br/>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 1:57 PM<br/>
To: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:eqbards@yahoogroups.com">eqbards@yaho ogroups.com</a><br/>
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Scales from other places.... (was RE: twisting 5,<br/>
added note)<br/>
<br/>
Nortlav the Scalekeeper or some such has been rumored to drop green and<br/>
white scales forever.<br/>
General consensus is that this is false. He only drops Red scales from<br/>
everything I've heard.
<br/>
<br/>
Unfortunately, this is the easiest one to get by far. If you help any<br/>
clerics on their epics<br/>
should be able to get a Red scale from Naggy or Rage. The White is the one<br/>
that is ridiculously<br/>
hard.<br/>
<br/>
Tzeetch<br/>

https://github.com/dbsanfte/eq-archi...tml/24444.html

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<b>Date:</b> Tue Apr 10 15:51:05 BST 2001 <br/>
<b>Author:</b> blitz_krieg@bigfoot.com <br/>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: SSS tips <br/>
<br/><br/>
<div id="ygrps-yiv-2142562839"><blockquote><span title="ireply">&gt; Has it been confirmed that he drops both white and red dragonscales?<br/>
<br/>
</span></blockquote>Red Scales are the only thing that's been &quot;confirmed&quot;. There's <br/>
rumors floating around saying a white scale is the rare drop, but <br/>
those always include reference to some un-named friend of a relatives <br/>
vet who talked to a guy that was in The Hole when another group <br/>
killed Nortlav.<br/>

https://web.archive.org/web/20020215.../nikki0102.htm

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2001/4/26 Revival of the diary!

...

Now it's time for some fun loot. Pakatto... Red Dragon Scale and the mysterious 2HS . Is the status about 24/54? It's a pretty garbage sword...is this all it is? Even though he's pretty strong... Caster is far more happy with Yael.
teeth! I see... this is that... it's meant to raise Yael's sense of values! After the mackerel is up, it's not just because Yael is the only one... but because I feel lucky to have Yael 
... However, it was a little disappointing that the one that came out that day was Red, and if BRD's Jaco could get White, it would probably reach Epic Comp.
Guild PH's erotic or brain staff , no... According to the undead leader Mr. Lisel, if you give the 2HS sword to LFay or some other NPC, you might get a White or Green Scale. Hmmm... I told Jaco about this, and it seems that Jaco immediately executed the quest.

https://web.archive.org/web/20010822...ML/006783.html

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1 - What's his spawn time like... are we talking minutes, hours, days, rare, triggered?
A) Unknown - I heard like 2 or 3 days RL - maybe more

2 - I've checked Ally's too, and it seems that this guy only drops red scales... is that true? Or is the Red just far more common? It won't really matter to us... this is the sort of thing we're looking to do for the first time (oh yes, and that means we may fail miserably, but our enchanter likes to die, so we need some failures)... just cause.


A) I heard he CAN drop any of the 3 scale colors, but red seems to be the most common - with white being the most super rare.


3 - Most important to me right now I guess... does he have an AE spell? Or does he dispell?


A) No AE spells, no dispells.


4 - Can he be slowed? It looks like he is level 53-55, so can an appropriate level enc/shm land any slows on him? It appears he hits for 300ish ... that's actually less than the BBQ boy for our epic... is he of comparable difficualty, harder, or easier?


A) I think our 60 shaman was able to cast both slow and Malo on it. I think he has more HP than BBQ boy, but doesn't hit as hard but he does have that lifetap/proc damage.


5 - Does he cast much else in the way of spells, in any? Other than the 1500dmg lifetap or DD.


A) I didn't see him doing any spells other than the lifetap/proc dd or whatever it was.

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In all the times he has been killed on every server since he was put in, he has NEVER dropped a non-red scale. and the EASIEST way to reach him is a dwarven cleric who has never fought in the hole, and one spell, DA.
It has to be a Brell cleric, otherwise the wandering elementals will be aggro, and they WILL chain aggro to yael, resulting in a DT. everyone else drops down to die, dwarf pulls corpses up to a room, resses everyone between wandering mobs, the raiders kill hole mobs while resser watches and plays safty net.

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If you're not totally crazy the best way to get to him is to go into the city and look for the drop-off into the water, invis and take the plunge, then head off to the left and drag the rock golem into the hall with you out of aggro range of Yael. We like to run the whole route because we go down there primarily for ranger/shaman epics, and because it's fun. Just make sure you have a plan for dealing with 4 golems at once.
Fight him with a main tank getting about 15 sec of good aggro before other melees jump in. Heal the heck out of the tank - he doesn't aggro healers too much. I wouldn't count on slowing him, as his MR is very high; I wouldn't try to stun him either, as you'll more likely than not be resisted and you don't want to get aggroed by this guy. I don't know how effective runing is other than to say the only time we had an enchanter live through this fight she was OOM and couldn't rune I do believe the proc is a lifetap though so I would go the overwhelm-with-damage-output route.

He only drops red scales. The others are merely hopeful rumors and have no basis in fact.
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Old 08-11-2022, 09:35 PM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20020215.../nikki0102.htm

2001/4/26 Revival of the diary!

...

Now it's time for some fun loot. Pakatto... Red Dragon Scale and the mysterious 2HS . Is the status about 24/54? It's a pretty garbage sword...is this all it is? Even though he's pretty strong... Caster is far more happy with Yael.
teeth! I see... this is that... it's meant to raise Yael's sense of values! After the mackerel is up, it's not just because Yael is the only one... but because I feel lucky to have Yael 
... However, it was a little disappointing that the one that came out that day was Red, and if BRD's Jaco could get White, it would probably reach Epic Comp.
Guild PH's erotic or brain staff , no... According to the undead leader Mr. Lisel, if you give the 2HS sword to LFay or some other NPC, you might get a White or Green Scale. Hmmm... I told Jaco about this, and it seems that Jaco immediately executed the quest.

https://web.archive.org/web/20011225...html?item=5863

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Rusted Throneblade
LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM
Damage: 27
Delay: 52
Ratio: 1.925 Amazing
Str: +3 Dex: +2
Weight: 10.0
Classes: Warrior Shadowknight Paladin Ranger
Races: All Races
Inventory Slot: Inventory
Can be stored in Large and larger containers
Last updated: Wed May 9 12:03:24 2001
Average Price: 2,250pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 55
More...
This item is found on creatures.
Nortlav the Scalekeeper (The Hole)

Found in:
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RE: If this is a rusted one... Reply... By: Darknyss,
155 posts
Posted @ Fri, Aug 17th 10:06 AM 2001 Score: Decent[2.95]
You haven't heard the legend....
A gnome in Lesser Faydark tells of "the ScaleKeeper," a brave Knight who used only a Rusted weapon to slay the dragons and take their scales, and now only lives in the deepest, darkest of places.

BTW: This is a Rusted weapon, not Rusty weapon... you know how Verant can change a letter and totally throw off the patterns [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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RE: Killed him tonight Reply...
Posted @ Mon, May 7th 12:40 AM 2001
By: Anonymous
Score: Default [2.00]
There is a Gnome, in Lfay, near the gnomish houses that mentions Nortlav. I assumed he was a gnomish warrior of some sort...might try giving him the sword. When hailed, the gnome emotes "***** wonders if (your name here) is looking for the scalekeeper" or something similar.
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14:38:27 Jun 24, 2001

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Since modifications have been made after the patch, I will summarize the Bard Epic relationship.

A new GnomeNPC has been added to GnomeNPCCamp on the Zone side of Lfay's StreamFont.

>hail Grynnaf Einoom

Grynnaf Einoom looks at Xxxxx and wonders if he is looking for the Scalekeeper?

>What is Scalekeeper?

Ahh...Ye be lookin for Nortlav then.
Nortlav is a strong fella. Ye dunna want to mess with the likes of him.
He's known as a dragonslayer. I heard
that he keeps the scales of the dragons he's slain.
Yer not impressed eh? look for Nortlav is strong. do you want to be associated with him? He is known as DragonSlayer. I heard he has the scales of the dragon he killed. Are you surprised?

All the dragons he killed died with the [rusty weapon] blade.

>What is rusty weapon?

Aye. I dunno know why he does what he does
.
Norrath, surrounded by darkness

. I don't know how I beat him.
But all the dragons he killed were killed by rusty weapons of some kind.
I don't know where he is now, but I've heard he's deep in Norrath, where the darkness swirls.

It's the end here, I said various Keywords, but no response.
Sounds like someone named Nortlav has all sorts of DragonScales.
It seems to have RedDragonScale.

And then there was Nortlav the Scalekeeper in Hole. Defeating him will drop a Red Dragon Scale.

(Recruiting information)

https://web.archive.org/web/20050514...02046597235093

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Posted @ Fri, May 3rd 6:53 PM 2002
By: Minute
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You say, 'Hail, Grynnaf Einoom'
Grynnaf Einoom looks at Pelorus and wonders if he is looking for the Scalekeeper

You say, 'I am looking for the scalekeeper'
Grynnaf Einoom says 'Ahh... Ye be lookin' for Nortlav then. Notlav is a strong fella. Ye dunna want to mess with the likes of him. He's known as a dragonslayer. I heard that he keeps the scales of the dragons he's slain. Yer not impressed eh? All the dragons he's killed have died by the blade of a [rusty weapon]

You say, 'Why a rusty weapon?'
Grynnaf Einoom says 'Aye, I dunno know why he does what he does. But every dragon he's killed died by the likes of a rusty weapon. I dunno where he is now, but I heard he can be found in the depths of Norrath, surrounded by darkness'

Couldn't get any more info out of him. Tried handing him the Rusted Thorneblade and he didn't respond. Got pissed so I wacked him (No faction hit) and took my sword back. He respawned a few minutes later. Would love to have any more info on this guy anyone can gather.

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I wish you were right, truly I do. We killed this guy a bunch on Live and there's really no denying it is Red only. There exists no actual proof of anything else.
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Submited by: Quiqui On: 11/6/2001 11:11:56 AM Rank: worst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 best
HELP - I need a white dragon scale, killed Vox four times now no scales, I petitioned. Guide answers with "Vox does not drop the scale every time, however we have added a quest to receive a white dragon scale to make the bard epic slightly easier" and wouldn't give me any more information.

I asked everyone and their mother and came across 2 leads

1 - it might involve turning a white dragonscale cloak BACK into a white dragon scale
2 - it might begin in the hole. i'm going to run a halfling down to nortlav and hail him...hmmm

if ANYONE has ANY information, please click my name and EMAIL ME !

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Quiqui Bodae | 11/7/2001 6:40:55 PM

OK - There is a QUEST to receive a white dragon scale. A Guide told me this when I petitioned that Vox didn't drop a scale. The guide refused to share any more info, so I asked everyone I could possibly think of that would know, and got TWO leads -

1. Part of it has to do with the hole...maybe nortlav? has anyone hailed him with good faction?

2. It MIGHT involve turning a White Dragon Scale Cloak back into a White Dragon Scale...as you know the cloaks dropped in value whereas the scales SOARED when the epics came out...on Veeshan cloaks go for 50k and scales for 80-100. I have no further info on this.

IF ANYONE FINDS OUT ANYTHING ON THIS PLEASE LET ME KNOW! GETTING LOWBIES TOGETHER FOR VOX EVERY WEEK IS GETTING OLD!

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Submited by: Anonymous On: 11/23/2001 4:33:56 AM Rank: worst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 best
Sources of White dragon scale:

Vox
Gornaire
Scale Keeper (Rare drop)
Some white dragon in VP
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QUEST??? Reply... By: Anonymous
Posted @ Fri, Nov 9th 1:19 PM 2001 Score: Default[2.00]
I was told by a guide that there is a quest to receive a white scale, but the stupid guide would not say anymore...i asked around and a couple of people said they had heard something similar...

the two rumours were -
1) it might involve turning a white dragonscale cloak (50k on veeshan) back into a white dragon scale (100k on veeshan).
2) it begins in the hole.

now, i have read every site i could find, and no one has said anything about hailing mr nortlav. i am taking a halfling down there today if vox doesn't drop her scale (this'll be third time i've killed her) and hoping he's up to be hailed. if he isn't, i'll get a guild group to kill yael and then hold the camp till he pops, maybe faction song will be enough to give me the quest...

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many of you dont know what you are talking about Reply... By: Anonymous
Posted @ Fri, Aug 10th 4:24 PM 2001 Score: Decent[3.00]
The red dragon scale is used in the BARD EPIC, WARRIOR EPIC, and to make the RED DRAGONSCALE BREASTPLATE. Talendor, Nagafen, Nortlav.

The white dragon scale is used for the BARD EPIC, and to make the WHITE DRAGONSCALE CLOAK. Comes from Vox, and Gorenaire, possibly Nortlav.

The green dragon scale is used for the WARRIOR EPIC. It drops off Severilous in Emerald Jungle. It is also reported to drop of Nortlav, and possibly Hoshkar in Veeshan's Peak, though I doubt it comes from Hoshkar.

The EMERALD dragon scale is used for the EMERALD DRAGONSCALE TUNIC. The EMERALD dragon scale drops off Wuoshi in Wakening Lands. Wuoshi spawns at the port in and is on CoV (Claws of Veeshan) faction.
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Everything you just posted here is the same thing from the same poster
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Most everything, which is why their name was highlighted in bold. But the dates show the player's progress, or lack thereof, with the guide's information. And there are also a few Anonymous posts included that do not belong to that commenter. More links/quotes later today when time allows.
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Bard Epic Changed(Concert Hall BBS)
 どうやら、Bard Epicも変更があったようで、Dragon ScaleがQuestになっている模様? L-FayにGrynnaf EinoomというNPCがいて、Dragon Scaleに関して語ってくれるとか。後、TrakanonのGutが100% Dropになっているようです。

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from that Erudite guy in the Hole that Minute found. He's level 53/54 and hits for 227 and a 1500 hp lifetap proc. Very MR but not CR. Venril Sathir style tactics have taken him down on other servers. He drops a rusty weapon (quest item) and 3 dragon scales of any combination of red, white, and green each time.

Dragon scales still drop from the dragons as well but this gives those bards sitting at 52 a reason to level now since they don't have to go for Goneraire.

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Standing next to a tree behind Happ spawn in LFay is a gnome by the name of Grynnaf Einoom. Hailed him, conversation went like this:

You say, 'hail Grynnaf Einoom'

Grynnaf Einoom looks at Aegos and wonders if he is looking for the Scalekeeper?

You say, 'what scalekeeper?'

Grynnaf Einoom says, 'Ahh...Ye be lookin for Nortlav then. Nortlav is a stron fella. Ye dunna want to mess with the likes of him. He's known as a dragonslayer. I heard that he keeps the scales of dragons he's slain. Yer not impressed eh? All the dragons he's killed have died by the blade of a [rusty weapon].

You say, 'what rusty weapon?'

Grynnaf Einoom says, 'Aye, I dunno know why he does what he does. But every dragon he's killed died by the likes of a rusty weapon. I dunno where he is now, but I heard he can be found in the depths of Norrath, surrounded by darkness"

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Giving the weapon to the gnome doesn't do anything but cost you the weapon.

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Scalekeeper. Implemented so that Bards and Warriors would not have to compete with casters going for the White Dragonscale Cloak and Melee's going for the Red Dragonscale BP. The Paladin community is NOT happy about this guy. It's totaly unfair to make Scales easier to get and keep the drop rate on the
Books so low. As I said, I don't care about my own Epics. Just too much frustration for them.
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