P99 Classic vs Original Classic

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can point to even a single instance of an admin banning someone, locking a page, or doing anything else that wasn't clearly intended to make the wiki better and/or enforce the established wiki rules ... please link it.

FYI: my other forum account was banned, reason "misogyny", which is a bogus reason and you know it, you also banned my wiki account permanently.

I'm not really bothered, I've lost things of real value in the past and I'm still alive, I just hate your lies and deceit.

Wiki is not classic and only those who agree with YOU can edit it and you make shit up as an excuse to ban. Even the P99 staff want to distance themselves from your wiki and I don't blame them because if its anything like wikipedia it's a load of bollcks and it seems to be because one of the 'facts' on your wiki is that a dragon has a mental health disorder and you want me to do your job and fix that for you if it's not true...even though you're always saying how everything is subjective...when it siuts you that is....damn flip floppers..

[Danth]

This site is fairly permissive in general. For the most part folks who earn bans here are asking for it. If someone manages to get himself banned from the wiki he must be an utter reject. Try to act mature and you'll find the pesky admins much less troublesome.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a dragon has a mental health disorder and you want me to do your job and fix that for you if it's not true...

Editer was probably making a joke based on the zam entry

You say, 'Hail, Klandicar'

Klandicar says, 'Oi, what is this? A Wood Elf, if my tired old eyes are not mistaken. Knew it would happen. Sooner rather than later. No stopping the flood now, eh?'

You say, 'What flood?'

Klandicar says, 'The flood of beings to Velious. Starts with a trickle, like all floods. Sweeps the old away in the end, leaving a new landscape. Blessing and shame that I will not be around to see it all unfold.'

You say, 'Why will you not be around?'

Klandicar says, 'I will be leaving this world soon enough, I think. Too tired to continue this existence, too jaded to believe tomorrow would be any different than today. Seeing you here is the most exciting thing that has happened to me in aeons, and even that isn't enough to make me want to continue. Yes, it is the Necropolis for me, and the swift embrace of fire, and then my dust shall fly free as I once did.'

You say, 'You were free?'

Klandicar says, 'Dragons have never been truly free. The Claws, the Ring, the One Who Sleeps, our very nature, all conspire to keep us enslaved. We cannot grow beyond what we are now, so doomed we all are. Masters of this world we are not. Your very presence here screams this to any who have ears to hear. The Age of Scale is long past.'

You say, 'Why is the Age of Scale long past?'

Klandicar says, 'It proves how weak and static our race has become. Here you stand, in the most sacred of places, fearing nothing, daring to converse with me. If I were to consume you now, a dozen would appear to replace you. As mighty as Dragonkind is, we can never hope to match the power you wield. Dragons have limits set upon themselves, while you and your kind refuse to accept any limits. We cannot compete with that. If only we could throw off these shackles we bind ourselves with.'

You say, 'How can you throw off the shackles?'

Klandicar says, 'I do not see this happening. Too proud, too sure of ourselves, as a race we could never concede that we have anything to learn from the likes of you. We need a revelation. Something to open our eye, a poke in the rump. The Iksar almost woke us up, they had us united and striving for something for a brief while, but the Iksar Empire was in many ways as doomed as we are, too inflexible. What does not bend will break. The same could be said of the Kromzek.'

You say, 'Who are the Kromzek?'

Klandicar says, 'The Kromzek are also clinging to the old ways, they have changed no more than we have over the generations. We kill some,they kill some, nothing really changes. Now the Coldain, they are a group to admire, the first trickles of that flood I spoke of.'

You say, 'What about the Coldain?'

Klandicar says, 'I admire the Coldain They are strong because they adapt. They fought the Kromzek to a standstill, then pushed them back. They have not really crossed Dragons yet, but I feel that if they had a feud with us, they would present quite a challenge. And lo! There is a whole WORLD of peoples such as yourself, hardy and flexible as the Coldain, and here you stand at our doorstep, knocking.'

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FYI: my other forum account was banned, reason "misogyny", which is a bogus reason and you know it,

I have nothing to do with forum bannings, but if you were spewing hate about anyone (females, queer folk, racial minorities, etc.) I fully support the staff banning you.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you also banned my wiki account permanently.

What was your wiki user name? I need it to look up why you were banned.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not really bothered, I've lost things of real value in the past and I'm still alive, I just hate your lies and deceit.

I'm offering you a chance to prove to the public how deceitful I am: post (or PM me) your old wiki user name. I promise I'll lookup what I did and why, post it here, and the forum can judge how wrong it was for me to ban you.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

one of the 'facts' on your wiki is that a dragon has a mental health disorder and you want me to do your job and fix that for you if it's not true...even though you're always saying how everything is subjective...when it siuts you that is....damn flip floppers..

It's not "my job" to ensure the wiki is perfect, for you or anyone. It's everyone's job: that's the entire idea of a community resource like a wiki.

At the same time it is my "job" (as a wiki admin) to ensure no one abuses that shared resource. Making a little joke about a dragon being depressed (when his in-game text is "depressed") is not abusing anything, and again if it bothers you so much you can fix it.

But again, post your wiki username and I can explain why I felt that whatever you did (unlike the depressed dragon thing) was clearly abuse.

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have nothing to do with forum bannings, but if you were spewing hate about anyone (females, queer folk, racial minorities, etc.) I fully support the staff banning you.

The term 'females' is problematic because that refers to animals.

I believe 'Women' is the proper term. Let's hope you don't get banned for misogyny.

[aussenseiter]

Any update on who Gugg vandalized the wiki as?

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have nothing to do with forum bannings, but if you were spewing hate about anyone (females, queer folk, racial minorities, etc.) I fully support the staff banning you.

What was your wiki user name? I need it to look up why you were banned.

I'm offering you a chance to prove to the public how deceitful I am: post (or PM me) your old wiki user name. I promise I'll lookup what I did and why, post it here, and the forum can judge how wrong it was for me to ban you.

It's not "my job" to ensure the wiki is perfect, for you or anyone. It's everyone's job: that's the entire idea of a community resource like a wiki.

At the same time it is my "job" (as a wiki admin) to ensure no one abuses that shared resource. Making a little joke about a dragon being depressed (when his in-game text is "depressed") is not abusing anything, and again if it bothers you so much you can fix it.

But again, post your wiki username and I can explain why I felt that whatever you did (unlike the depressed dragon thing) was clearly abuse.

Well first of all you aren't the judge of me or the admin of my life. You're the admin of a minor wiki which is on a crappy network called "the internet" which (allegedly) has child p0rn hidden on it somewhere, so there's not much to be proud of being an admin or contributer on that network is there buddy boy? Unless you're a pedo that is.

And like I said, you're the admin of that wiki, I'm not, so I'm not going to do your job or dirty work for you. If you want somebody's stuff deleted then do it yourself instead of asking other people to do it for you. I'm not going to be your unpaid servant. That wiki doesn't benefit everybody because EQ/P99 doesn't benefit everybody so why should everybody help you with it?

You accuse me of spewing hatred about females (yawn) yet you're okay with making light of mental health disorders on your web site which you call a "little joke". It just proves you're full of shit. And, btw, you're not the female spokesperson, they don't need you to protect them, they have brains and voices of their own just as much as you do. Calling me a woman hater is slander and the label "misogynist" just an excuse by hypocrites like you to censor the truth.

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Editer was probably making a joke based on the zam entry

Loramin's Commandments

Jokes about depression...

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Jokes about homosexuality...

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