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Old 09-04-2015, 10:18 PM
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How is killing dain = +750 tormax, and killing tormax is +750 to dain and yelinak, yet killing yelinak is only 75 to tormax. The 1500 vs 150 also.

Doesn't look right it's not uniform.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:17 PM
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I agree, I'd tend to think Yelinak was intended to be a +750/-1500 faction hit mob but the 0's were lost at some point.

Whether it's classic or a new change on live, is anyone's guess. Perhaps we can chalk it up to the Skyshrine 2.0 change that happened after Sleeper was awakened and classic should be the standard city leader +750/-1500 amounts.
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:13 PM
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Everything I'm reading regarding raising KT mentions that "Dain, his royals and yelinak" and head turn ins to bvellos are basically the necessities to raise it quickly. Im not seeing anything that reinforces the fact that a Yelinak kill is a fraction of the hit of a Dain kill, and it makes sense considering the lore. Here's a little comment that reinforces:

http://eqdiary.tripod.com/quests/kael.htm

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There's three other factions, King Tormax, Lord Yelinak and Dain Frostreaver IV. They are the leaders of the giants, dragons and dwarves, respectively.

Kromzek deaths raise Dain faction and lower Tormax faction, Coldain deaths do the opposite.

Killing Tormax will raise your Yelinak and Dain faction,

killing Dain will raise Tormax faction but do nothing for Yelinak, and

killing Yelinak will raise Tormax faction but do nothing for Coldain.

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Old 09-11-2015, 10:01 AM
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http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=18
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=20

Bump for Nilbog. Please see my ToV/NToV logs.

Looks like there is a standard value for WToV/Central trash, NToV Trash/66 Luclin Flurry drakes, 60 static drakes and named.

For the community at large, some values to be gathered that I haven't managed yet:

Statue of Rallos Zek - I think this guy should be a +500/-1000 hit but I'm not positive and I can't find him up

Avatar of War - I have the +500 hit but I don't have the - hit because I was max KoS to Giants. So to get this information you would need to be friendly with Giants enough to take a -1000 or -1500 hit and it to show in full.

WToV Dragons, I would assume they are the same as NToV bosses with a -500 CoV with their hit amount but I'm not sure. The -Yelinak and +Kromzek I've got no idea though. Lendi / Gozzrem and Telk all could use a killing. I'm assuming they're identical but you never know.

Beyond this, gathering some trash hits from Kael or more from ToV would be good. The typical faction quests that haven't been confirmed yet are also good (check Allakhazam and see if faction values have been posted yet) *** reminder the Skyshrine on live is different than today's, you can't really do those faction quests with the same reliability anymore.
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Old 09-16-2015, 11:10 AM
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I did some faction testing in North ToV yesterday, the values we have on P99 do not match the NToV ones.


Trash minis:

[Wed Sep 02 20:27:06 2015] You have slain Yrrindor Emerald Claw!
[Wed Sep 02 20:27:06 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:27:24 2015] You have slain Quellod Earthspirit!
[Wed Sep 02 20:27:24 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:23 2015] You have slain Kalkar of the Maelstrom!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:23 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:39 2015] You have slain Zyerek Onyxblood!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:39 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:55 2015] You have slain Cyndor Lightningfang!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:55 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -10.

Flurry Drakes:

[Wed Sep 02 19:56:10 2015] You have slain Lurian!
[Wed Sep 02 19:56:10 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 19:56:45 2015] You have slain Hsrek!
[Wed Sep 02 19:56:45 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 20:27:40 2015] You have slain Mazrien!
[Wed Sep 02 20:27:40 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 20:28:37 2015] You have slain Gra`Vloren!
[Wed Sep 02 20:28:37 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Wed Sep 02 20:30:08 2015] You have slain Nir`Tan!
[Wed Sep 02 20:30:08 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.

[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] Your faction standing with Claws of Veeshan has been adjusted by -50.
[Sat Aug 08 14:08:26 2015] You have slain Nelaarn the Ebon Claw!



On P99 we killed 2 Flurry drakes and 2 trash mobs (-120 CoV), this dropped some people from Ally to Amiable. That should not happen, most of the time you shouldn't even drop out of Ally, at a max Warmly.


If the faction values could be revised to match the live values that would be fantastic!
bump can this be examined or implemented to match proper live values
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:05 AM
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Pending update:
-Implemented faction hits, (where full values were obtained) from Daldaen's research



Well, some of the npcs have correct values, and others do not. Unfortunately, by the time eqlive had included +/- faction visibility, Most of the Velious zones were complete in regards to npc faction.

We will continue to improve faction as we can.
Nilbog did the latest patch include the more recent logs that I obtained from NToV (after this post)? Or just those I had posted before this.

Also do you happen to have any areas we should check on live for actual faction values?
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:26 AM
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Curious if anyone has the live values for Klandicar. Took me from high warmly to apprehensive the other night. Don't remember his hit being so high on live.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:35 AM
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Curious if anyone has the live values for Klandicar. Took me from high warmly to apprehensive the other night. Don't remember his hit being so high on live.
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...30&postcount=2

Literally the 2nd post in the thread with red text. -200 CoV hit. It should drop you to Kindly at a maximum.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:37 AM
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Hah, my bad. Been a while since I read through this thread. I'd suspect on p1999 it's currently set at -800 to -1000 for a hit.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:40 AM
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I've been working on Dain faction and noticed this as well. From dubious, one tormax kill (with guards) should take you to indifferent at least but it only brought me to apprehensive. I'm wondering if these bosses have been hard-coded to apprehensive as max (since apprehensive is a short range of only -100 to -1 )
One thing I've noticed factioning on this server with multiple factions... Apprehensive seems to be much larger than 100. No matter what faction I'm working on it seems to be one of the longest to get through.
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