NPC Spawn Issue: Ancient Cyclops

[girth]

So you had a 10% chance every hour, that's how I did the camp too(different times though, killed my PH at noon-2 GAMEtime). I saw him once, though I didn't get the kill. when I was higher level I went to OOT and got him in like 2 hours.

[AR3151]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it takes u that long u are either doing it wrong, or have terrible luck.
here is how u do it: at 10am GAMEtime kill all the wandering derv, mummy, sand giant, or desert madman. only the wanderers will be the PH, i believe there are 3 of them, 2 of which will have a 6min respawn timer, leaving the remaining wanderer (I.E. the PH) with a 31min timer. If u kill the pathing mobs at 10AM GAMEtime that will leave u with a 31min wait til inGAME night time around 8p. if u kill them again at 8pm GAMEtime it leaves u 31min til 6AM giving a 20% every hour

i have horrible luck, back on live i camped the OOT AC for 16 hours [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i was doing it right.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by AR3151 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thats good to know for sure.... i was trying to spawn him at 8pm, and 6am, need less to say after 8 hours im done for a while lol

Yeah, you want 9 and 7. I camped him for like 30 hours before I bothered to doublecheck what time night actually was here. After correcting that I got him first pop in the cycle :x

You *can* get a 7am pop here so done perfectly right you can get 2 chances in just over an hour.

Kill the PH at 11am.
Respawn is at 9pm.
Kill.
Respawn is 7am.
If not AC, wait to kill PH again until 11am.
Repeat.

For convenience I will usually keep the non AC spawns there obvious, and easy to kill (10m spider, 20m a derv that I give a crappy weapon to hold)

[Jagsman32]

Why would 9 and 7 make a difference to 8 and 6? They are both at night.

*Confirmed. Camped AC 12 hours and nothing. Just changed spawn to 9 and 7 and he spawned.

[mmiles8]

Why would 9 and 7 make a difference to 8 and 6? They are both at night.

[PhelanKA]

Originally Posted by Jagsman32 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would 9 and 7 make a difference to 8 and 6? They are both at night.

*Confirmed. Camped AC 12 hours and nothing. Just changed spawn to 9 and 7 and he spawned.

Confirmed as well. Just got mine tonite in SRO after 12 hours. Tried switchin to 8pm-6am spawn in the middle with no luck. Finally got on the 11am PH kill - 9pm spawn cycle two times around afterwards on the 9pm spawn.

[rioisk]

Originally Posted by eqholmes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he lacks the understanding of stats, lets say it is 10% just because you killed him 9 times doesn't mean he will spawn that 10th time. Each kill and 10% spawn chance is a separate event. Such as flipping a coin, just because you get 10 tails in a row doesn’t mean you’re anymore likely to get a heads on that 11th flip, it’s still 50/50.

Holmes 50 Nerco DA
Gretzky 38 Ranger DA

The expected value is still getting the spawn after 10 spawns.

[PhelanKA]

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The expected value is still getting the spawn after 10 spawns.

No... It's not. Take a probability and statistics class please. You have just as much chance (10%) of getting the spawn on the first go around as you do on the 10th try.

[eqholmes]

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The expected value is still getting the spawn after 10 spawns.

The "likely hood" it should spawn within 10 is a correct assumption, but the math on it doesn't change with time. At any given time the spawn will be 10% weather or not you have been there 20min or 20hours.

Truth be told I was being a bit of an ass when I stated it the first time, because I happen to have my one and only bad experience on this server with the chap that started the thread. I have since then gotten over it, been a good 7+ weeks.

Holmes 50 Nerco DA
Gretzky 50 Ranger DA

[lindz]

Ok so just want to confirm this.

I have been sitting at the AC "camp", killing the 30.6 minute respawn at 11am each day, get the respawn at 9pm which I kill immediately so I can get a 7am spawn. As it has not been AC, I have left that PH up until 11am to start the cycle again and allow two possible spawns per night.

So far I have killed the PH 32 times. Now it could be just abysmal luck, or I am doing this wrong.

Help. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

edit: Giving up for the night after 40 PH spawns (23 for today). We *must* be doing something wrong, this is just insane.