Are fungus tunics classic?

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've also noticed players are a lot more risk averse or maybe not just all that adventurous.

Think a lot of this is obviously a high risk vs low reward situation. When I first discovered p99 it was still a fairly new server (green that is) and I remember being so stoked to go to lower guk and farm and try to get a group to farm items. Even got to roll on an SMR, actually solo looted a few TBBs, and got to split an FBSS ! Amazing times but in the grand scheme of things this was wildly inefficient. Once I realized I could just afk farm halfling guards and make 10k a night going into these dungeons for a chance at getting a group for a chance at getting a camp for a chance at winning a random… that I would much rather just do the most profit yielding afk/solo friendly content.

Main reason why I think a random loot (similar to mischief) version of p99 or Quarm would be a lot more exciting [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] because I would be way more likely to join a random camp in permafrost or sol A if I thought I could have a decent chance at seeing something neat drop 😹 and like even tho I know it’s classic, maybe nerfing the heck outta ez mode plat farms [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] and also removing MQs from the game completely

[Goregasmic]

Yeah I actually wanted a TBB and a FBSS for my alts but TBB is like 5% drop rate and FBSS 10% drop rate on a 10% mob. Figured it would take forever on a 28mins respawn while I could probably buy both after a night in droga... 25 years later there aren't many secrets left and people figured most of the efficiencies. But yeah, green also has been up for like 6 years so most gear is now super cheap, making buying often faster than farming. This probably wasn't the case in the original timeline but not much you can do about it now.

On the other hand there's nothing worth anything in COM PUGs and nothing amazing in KC either unless you luck out on a tstaff and people flock there anyway. While you could get better loot in seb and it is empty so I don't think reward is the prime objective for most people. Those who want big rewards will make a strong class and solo/duo/trio the money camps.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've also noticed players are a lot more risk averse or maybe not just all that adventurous. I've seen a lot of entrance groups in velks content with just staying there while frenzy was open. The most daring puller will go up to broodling but they'll never move to CE/safehall. Won't complain being a chanter but that boggles my mind. I can understand people not wanting to deal with the absolute fuckery that is charasis but there is no reason for sebilis early camps being empty. Much less spending your entire 50s in LCY, that's just straight up dumb.

It makes sense if you think about where we are in the server's life. The majority of players are leveling up their 5th alt or whatever. They have gear, they have plat. They'd much rather sit semi AFK in a group while one person does all the work chain pulling mobs for them. They don't need to go anywhere else, they don't need to advocate for grouping at camps for certain drops. They can buy whatever they need, or they otherwise don't really need anything other than BIS raid gear at this point.

So for them, doing anything that adds additional risk to the EXP flow that they need has no value.

Separately, to address all the comments about "this item was big on classic" etc., we also have to remember that someone's experience in Classic is going to vary depending on what server and guild they were in. While info had started flowing online a bit, you were still going to see differences based on server/player knowledge back in the day.

[aaezil]

If you think the best chest item in the game is bad, then you are probably not the greatest EQ player

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think the best chest item in the game is bad, then you are probably not the greatest EQ player

I mean I probably am bad, but I just remember everyone pining over the monks, rogues, warriors etc. who had full skyshrine "back in the day."

I don't remember anyone pining for a fungus tunic. Fungus tunic was actually hella cheap on my server, and very attainable comparatively. Pretty sure you can pull up old auctions from 20+ years ago of people selling fungus tunics cheap AF compared to today. Also remember the camp almost always being camped even back then. A lot of times it was hard to find an open camp in Seb even if you had a group etc.

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean I probably am bad, but I just remember everyone pining over the monks, rogues, warriors etc. who had full skyshrine "back in the day."

I don't remember anyone pining for a fungus tunic. Fungus tunic was actually hella cheap on my server, and very attainable comparatively. Pretty sure you can pull up old auctions from 20+ years ago of people selling fungus tunics cheap AF compared to today. Also remember the camp almost always being camped even back then. A lot of times it was hard to find an open camp in Seb even if you had a group etc.

by hella cheap I mean compared to today's standards. 10-20K. wasn't a huge purchase like has been for most of my experience on P99.

[Wakanda]

Also random memory. I had full skyshrine on original EQ and got made fun of for not having full Kael instead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] everyone said it was better? But then on P99 SS is considered better a lot of the times. I personally preferred the look of Kael Armor though (purple for rogues !).

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

by hella cheap I mean compared to today's standards. 10-20K. wasn't a huge purchase like has been for most of my experience on P99.

You're not taking into account mudflation and what the value of platinum was at that time.

Fungi tunics cost more because we're on a mudflated server. On an original classic era server, every person on the server didn't know all the best cash camps, have an alt specifically dedicated to farming, etc. 10k - 20k platinum was worth a lot more in the classic era back in the day than it is on P99...shit look at Green as an example, it didn't take long for prices to go way up there because of how much plat there was in the economy.

[WarpathEQ]

Fungis went for identical prices on my classic live server as they do on P99 green for this era, never been on a server where they went for under 40k like they do on blue.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It makes sense if you think about where we are in the server's life. The majority of players are leveling up their 5th alt or whatever. They have gear, they have plat. They'd much rather sit semi AFK in a group while one person does all the work chain pulling mobs for them. They don't need to go anywhere else, they don't need to advocate for grouping at camps for certain drops. They can buy whatever they need, or they otherwise don't really need anything other than BIS raid gear at this point.

I can understand not wanting loot but who wants to go through 59 on level 40-44 mobs in a 6 player group? That sounds miserable, especially when a couple zones have 47+ mobs that can be handled by just about any group. I mean if that's your idea of fun then more power to you but if you want to be the slightest bit efficient it is definitely not the way to go.