Negative Health Impacts of Masks

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ambiguously quoting tangential Wikipedia articles is a great debate strategy, but it's not a great way to arrive at the truth. Which one is your goal here?

https://english.stackexchange.com/qu...-but-by-washin

Reality holds more complexities than any singular truth, present or past, can do justice. A lot of what was true centuries ago doesn't track with our current understanding. Similarly, what's considered true today will be better understood and articulated centuries from now, assuming humankind survives itself. If it isn't the whole truth, than by definition it isn't the truth. That is the issue with having only one or two articles/studies to support an argument.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulty_generalization

And of course truth can also depend greatly on personal experience. For instance, an able-bodied person who claims that "masks don't do anything" would be considered addle-brained by anyone with cystic fibrosis. Something, something, risk–benefit ratio.

https://midwesternnewspapers.com/wea...stic-fibrosis/

“If medical science has proven it saves lives in the CF world,” said Shane. “It’s that simple. People did die because they thought CF kids needed an outlet, something in common so they had this camp for them to play but it backfired.

https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/full....201503-0481LE

The recently updated Cystic Fibrosis Foundation infection control guidelines advise people with cystic fibrosis (CF) to wear a surgical mask in healthcare settings to reduce the risk for transmission or acquisition of CF pathogens (1).

Surgical masks were originally developed to prevent droplet contamination of operating fields. Very little is known about their ability to prevent droplet nuclei generation. Some investigators suggest that droplet nuclei cannot be formed, as the originator droplets will be impacted on the mask (6). Others argue that small infectious particles originating from the lung, rather than impacting on an obstructing mask, will follow airstreams flowing around the edges of relatively loose fitting surgical masks (7). Both arguments relate directly to Newton’s laws of motion: Newton’s first law states objects in motion will continue to move in the same direction unless acted on by an unbalanced force. Therefore, large particles will impact on an obstructing object (a mask), whereas small particles do not need much force (F = ma; Newton’s second law) to change direction and might be able to follow airstreams around the mask’s edges.

We aimed to determine whether surgical masks were effective in reducing the airborne spread of P. aeruginosa by people with CF when coughing.

Despite these study limitations, we demonstrated that surgical masks were effective in reducing the airborne load of P. aeruginosa when colonized individuals with CF cough. Our data provide evidence for the new Cystic Fibrosis Foundation guideline to wear surgical masks in healthcare settings.

The italicized section is why some believe "masks don't do anything"; however, even in this study, that generalization is not accurate.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I searched through all the pre-velious masks for all classes on https://wiki.project1999.com/Category:Face

Sorting for both hp and stamina, I couldn't find a single mask that lowered health.

Myth: Busted!

Yeah but then there's the Moss Mask.

[Nocht]

https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but then there's the Moss Mask.

There's been reported deaths of people wearing that mask.

[Jibartik]

Bros if you live on the coast and wear 5 masks you breathe more o2 than someone on a nude walk in colorado

[G13]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The italicized section is why some believe "masks don't do anything"; however, even in this study, that generalization is not accurate.

Nope

They really don't do anything

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

random quotes

Why don't you put that brain to good use seeking the truth rather than debating? We both know that mess of quotes is quite irrelevant, and the goal is to be correct, not right.

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everyone knows what a restrictor plate is. Some how, the cars still work. Yeah they not making 800 hp but they making 600 comfortably.

Actually, I had to google restrictor plate! But here is the key point: Why would you want to run your body at 600 hp rather than 800? And what happens to civilization when we all run at 90% capacity?

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems like they just wanted to find a way to say "masks bad". Why would you even include two things so dissimilar?? A home made shirt around your mouth and a professionally made mask from a company with years of feed back and experience are just not the same. Then to put them both in the same group, as if they were equals, its not to make them look good. The whole "paper" which is just an amalgamation of other papers, pretty much just cherry picking, quote mining. It only includes the worst results.

It's a real paper by real PhD scientists in a real peer-reviewed journal. Personally I think we should trust the science here. But more seriously: why is it so difficult for you to believe that masks cause chronic, low level stress? As BlackBellamy says, obvious study is obvious.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But here is the key point: Why would you want to run your body at 600 hp rather than 800? And what happens to civilization when we all run at 90% capacity?

https://www.healthline.com/health/tr...efits#benefits

https://www.menshealth.com/uk/fitnes...ring-training/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4879455/

When you wear a training mask, your body begins to adapt to the reduced oxygen intake, making your heart and lungs work harder.

Then, when you take the mask off, you’ll get a big boost — your body has adapted to the restricted oxygen and is able to use the oxygen more efficiently, which helps you perform better.

After using a training mask for some time, you may feel like you can run faster, jump higher, or bike for a longer duration. If you’re a competitor, this may give you an edge over the people you’re up against.

Get away from your PC and do some lifting

[Raev]

You are confusing acute and chronic stress. Also, they took the masks OFF to demonstrate the performance results, which again shows that wearing masks slows you down. But more to the point, this is why Science exists. Actual experiments show mask wearing causes negative symptoms.

[Jibartik]

did they take the masks OFF to DEMONSTRATE the performance RESULTS?