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Old 01-14-2014, 08:31 AM
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Default Project 1999 wants to go public; you are lead market design... What is your tag-line?

Mine would be something like:


"How would you feel about reliving the glory days of the greatest MMORPG ever made?

Well set your clocks back fifteen years time... This is Project 1999."


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Old 01-14-2014, 08:33 AM
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Let me just go ahead and apologize in advance, in case this thread sucks balls and should have never been posted in the first place.

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this thread sucks balls and should have never been posted in the first place.
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something tied in with Rick Rolled. "project 1999. never gonna give you up!"
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Relive the classic experience of Everquest! The foundation that every MMORPG is built upon today.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:24 AM
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Relive the classic experience of Everquest! The foundation that every MMORPG is built upon today.
Actually UO was the foundation for every MMO not EQ but you get points for coming in second.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:33 AM
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Actually UO was the foundation for every MMO not EQ but you get points for coming in second.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_59 (September 1996)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_online (September 1997)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everquest (March 1999)

UO's development cycle likely overlapped with Meridian's, but Meridian beat them to the punch by a full year.

Everquest's development cycle was well under way by the time UO released, starting sometime in 1996. That's not to say they didn't pull ideas from UO, but it was hardly the foundation. I'd argue the real "mmo foundation" is a combination of these three games, with the majority coming from EQ.

Also,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD#DikuMUD

^The first real MMO, along with its respective spin-off code bases, and the prior code's released before it (but DikuMUD was the first base that really felt like an MMO, in my opinion). Without this, it's unlikely anyone would have even tried making a GUI MMO to begin with.

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Old 01-15-2014, 06:42 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_59 (September 1996)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_online (September 1997)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everquest (March 1999)

UO's development cycle likely overlapped with Meridian's, but Meridian beat them to the punch by a full year.

Everquest's development cycle was well under way by the time UO released, starting sometime in 1996. That's not to say they didn't pull ideas from UO, but it was hardly the foundation. I'd argue the real "mmo foundation" is a combination of these three games, with the majority coming from EQ.

Also,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD#DikuMUD

^The first real MMO, along with its respective spin-off code bases, and the prior code's released before it (but DikuMUD was the first base that really felt like an MMO, in my opinion)

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MMO - 100,000 players...
UO - 1st..
EQ - Second
Meridian - Never..

I think Daoc actually would be third.
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Everquest's development cycle was well under way by the time UO released, starting sometime in 1996. That's not to say they didn't pull ideas from UO, but it was hardly the foundation. I'd argue the real "mmo foundation" is a combination of these three games, with the majority coming from EQ
Well they did get in trouble for allegedly stealing code from DikuMUD

As for the tagline... Project 1999: Pixelated Nostalgia
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:19 AM
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MMO - 100,000 players...
UO - 1st..
EQ - Second
Meridian - Never..

I think Daoc actually would be third.
Well... if you want to go by numbers...

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Subscriber numbers peaked at around 250,000 in July 2003
^6 years after release.

We don't really have a timeline for that "first to 100k" number, though my understanding is it was less than a year after release, which would put us somewhere between March 1998 (6 months) and September 1998 (1 year).

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These records show more than 225,000 subscriptions on 1 November 1999
^ 8 months after release.

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(Source) More than 100,000 clerics, half-elves, gnomes, and other fantasy characters created one of the largest assemblies of game players to date ... "EverQuest currently has more than 430,000 active subscribers with new fans logging- on daily," said Scott McDaniel, vice president of marketing, Sony Online Entertainment. - July 29th, 2002
^ less than 3 years after release.

My point being that if you're going to try and call Ultima Online the "foundation" for modern MMO's, you need to give as much if not more credit to Everquest as well. It wasn't any one game, it was a combination of several that give us our WoW's and EQ2's and SWTOR's.


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Well they did get in trouble for allegedly stealing code from DikuMUD
Wouldn't be surprised if they did... DikuMUD was A+. Plus the Godwars derivative codebase nearly invented MMO PvP. That shit was cut throat.
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