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Old 05-02-2014, 02:30 PM
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Just another example of a red player being entirely dismissive of a blue players concerns. We (I'm speaking for hesitant blue players here) understand the rules, and we understand the enjoyment from pvp. What you (ignorant red players) fail to understand is how to entice a blu player to convert. It seems the typical response is either blue players just don't get it, or we're pussies, or a combination of the two. Getting merc'd by people in your level range in full resist gear, fungis, and VP rots isn't fun and calling us out for refusing to sack up and tolerate it is a poor way to convince people to play on your server.
What? There have been multiple posts in this thread where bluebies listed non-existent reasons for not playing, such as being afraid of item loot or afraid of being corpse camped. I'm not calling anyone a pussy. And wtf how can you say I'm dismissive of your concerns when I just said that fungi and VP gear should be made 46+?

Chill out, friend.
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Old 05-02-2014, 02:31 PM
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Just another example of a red player being entirely dismissive of a blue players concerns. We (I'm speaking for hesitant blue players here) understand the rules, and we understand the enjoyment from pvp. What you (ignorant red players) fail to understand is how to entice a blu player to convert. It seems the typical response is either blue players just don't get it, or we're pussies, or a combination of the two. Getting merc'd by people in your level range in full resist gear, fungis, and VP rots isn't fun and calling us out for refusing to sack up and tolerate it is a poor way to convince people to play on your server.
^-Pretty valid points.

Red just has its own kind of bullshit you gotta deal with(this isnt a conversion point or anything) Some is just more tolerable than other. For instance how people suggest moving zones...on blue you get asshole druids/bards PLing and jacking everything and you usually have to move until a GM responds(which they can be quick about sometimes)

That said, red's been fun even though the druid destroying BB...was my group haha. Made one of them quit on the spot, the others are still playing(myself included)
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Old 05-02-2014, 02:45 PM
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-Fungi Tunic, epics need minimum level requirement of 46 to equip and epics should totally not be questable until 50. I don't see why not to include this, even if the fungi thing is not classic. Could throw a level requirement of 46 on all raid gear too to avoid those Nihi twinks running around in VP gear on level 30s.
What about not being able to use gear if you de-level or restricting heal/buff to PvP level range (ie +/-4) ?
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Old 05-02-2014, 03:58 PM
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1) EQ PVP mechanics suck. I'd rather play DAOC.
2) Giving up all my gear, running around naked, and being slaughtered by 5 year twinks
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Old 05-02-2014, 01:38 PM
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I played a lot on Sullon on Live.

I dont think EverQuest was ever properly designed however the main reason I'm staying away from Red is cheating (I dont really see how P99 team could do what Sony/Verant failed to), delevelled raid geared alts and, at a Kunark Era, godlike Alts in general since pretty much everything is dropable.

All-nodrop + no level loss rule would probably make me play on Red but I highly doupt the EQ classic community would like it.
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Old 05-02-2014, 01:50 PM
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I played a lot on Sullon on Live.

I dont think EverQuest was ever properly designed however the main reason I'm staying away from Red is cheating (I dont really see how P99 team could do what Sony/Verant failed to), delevelled raid geared alts and, at a Kunark Era, godlike Alts in general since pretty much everything is dropable.

All-nodrop + no level loss rule would probably make me play on Red but I highly doupt the EQ classic community would like it.
One thing I can definitely credit that staff for here is they actually keep the server cheat free to the best of their ability. Sullon had a massive showEQ problem, warping, offsets, z axis exploits, ghosting, etc etc. That's not an issue to my knowledge on p99red.

What you're describing does exist and it's definitely cheesy/griefery but it's not cheating. I think the main issue is the perception that the server is full of assholes and trolls. I'm sure it's being cleaned up but how do you reconcile the "red is fine, come have fun" mindset and also tell someone "well if a level 20 is killing you with a level 60 Druid backing him up you can just log off or go somewhere else" mindset?

EQ pvp is fun. It was the most fun gaming experience I've ever had, but I don't feel that p99 red will recapture that feeling for me especially due to (in no particular order) the toxic playerbase, deleveled uber twinks that are basically unkillable, level restrictions that enable out of range healers which ruins pvp, and low population.
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Old 05-02-2014, 01:57 PM
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but it's not cheating.
No its not. Not on the same section. Its is something perfectly legit but still doesnt makes me want to play on the server.
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Old 05-02-2014, 02:02 PM
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No its not. Not on the same section. Its is something perfectly legit but still doesnt makes me want to play on the server.
I agree with you on that. Got to watch a druid with fungi/manastone go HAM on all of blackburrow which was full of fresh red recruits. I'll pass on that.
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Old 04-29-2014, 04:12 PM
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If you haven't tried Red 99 lately, there has never been a better time to start!
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Old 04-29-2014, 04:26 PM
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If you played on Red 1999 in the past, why did you quit?
I've dabbled a few times, never made it to level 5 though. I love the idea of the added element of intelligent opponents, but my playtime is extremely limited (probably < 10 hours a month, usually in 1-2 hour sessions) and starting from scratch in a barren (yet harsh) world is just hard to get past. Especially since my class of choice would be rogue, which makes playing in these conditions even tougher. Also, some of the stuff seen in global OOC is pretty pathetic, but /ignore works fine for that.


What did you like about the server?
Again, I love the idea of the added element of intelligent enemies. I put time into pretty much every live PVP server at one point or another (Rallos, Vallon, Sullon) although I never made it too far for the same reasons I described above. Starting from scratch in a harsh environment is just hard and occasionally frustrating, knowing I have my "main" that is already somewhat established on another server.

Would you want to play again?
I'm certainly tempted to play again, although it really comes down to my extremely limited playtime. The EXP bonus is definitely a step in the direction towards attracting me to this server. I'm also interested in the Teams server if that ever comes to fruition.
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