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Old 12-18-2009, 07:08 PM
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Yes, but by your earlier comment if somone who has less play time than you is at the Frenzy camp, they should give it to you becasue you have "put in more time".
That's not true. If it is my failure to claim a camp and you are there before me it is yours.

This is what Wenai has basically done:

Imagine me being at frenzy camp. I was there before all of you and I was killing and having a fun time. Backpacks were full of FBSS!

Then Wenai comes in and says, "Dartagnan has too many FBSS's and you have been here too much. I am putting this camp on rotation because others need FBSS too. As such, you will all now rotate.

That's bogus and it is exactly what has happened.

None of you would allow this to happen if you were legitimately at a place before others. It is the one rule of EverQuest that is literally followed no matter what server you are on. If you have a camp, it's yours. You get your item, got to go to bed etc., you relinquish said camp and then next in line gets it.

If you truly believed in this rotation crap, then all our camps on this server should go on rotation because it's not fair that people should be able to camp tons of manastones or whatever else.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:00 PM
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So me being on this server and putting a lot of time and effort should mean nothing? Everquest has always worked on the principle of time. More time more rewards.

I mean it's like kicking me out of the frenzy camp because I was there first. We don't do that with camps do we? If you're at a camp it's yours until you get out.

Why are we treating raid encounters any different?
I'm saying it's a game...and it's been provided free of charge. I giggle every time I see someone talk about their time spent on this server as if they'd just finished up a day working in the coal mines.

I'm not telling you how to spend your free time, I'm just wondering if a little bit of perspective (such as standing in someone else's shoes) might not be in order.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:11 PM
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I'm saying it's a game...and it's been provided free of charge. I giggle every time I see someone talk about their time spent on this server as if they'd just finished up a day working in the coal mines.

I'm not telling you how to spend your free time, I'm just wondering if a little bit of perspective (such as standing in someone else's shoes) might not be in order.
Thank you, it is my time and I choose to spend it how I want.

You mean to tell me that if you got the manastone camp, you would put it on rotation? Every spawn someone else would get to kill it until you did?

Sorry, but I have never experienced EverQuest that way. You get there first, it's yours. If someone else beats you to it, it's theirs.

Remember Jboot camps? They didn't put those on rotation did they. You waited in line in hopes of getting into the group so you could /random for it. You didn't just walk up there and announce to them that you guys spend too much time there. I force a rotation of this spawn!
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:41 PM
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I have recently started a blitz campaign on your forums because I saw nothing happening to address valid issues.

Now that I see this, I will stop. Thank you for at least acknowledging that there is a problem.

I understand that punishment isn't any of my business, all I can ask for is that the shady behavior stop one way or another, but that's up to you dude. I hope that in the future we can all have a more ethical EQ experience.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:49 PM
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I have recently started a blitz campaign on your forums because I saw nothing happening to address valid issues.
Lol. You realize this is a free video game that you're supposed to have fun with right?
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:54 PM
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Btw Nilbog, I say this with respect, but I don't get the point of most of your message. I have a problem with this though:

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-player or GM punishment is none of your business.
You don't want people complaining but you also don't want transparency. When your own GMs are caught exploiting and go unpunished, its insane to not expect public outcry. You mention VZTZ, a server that many people left due to GM corruption. Do you want that repeated here? You mention new people not wanting to play because of the drama, but the drama is caused by your current player base being upset with some going ons in the first place.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:02 PM
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Btw Nilbog, I say this with respect, but I don't get the point of most of your message. I have a problem with this though:



You don't want people complaining but you also don't want transparency. When your own GMs are caught exploiting and go unpunished, its insane to not expect public outcry. You mention VZTZ, a server that many people left due to GM corruption. Do you want that repeated here? You mention new people not wanting to play because of the drama, but the drama is caused by your current player base being upset with some going ons in the first place.
He wants you to shut the f*ck up and enjoy the server he created.

Any particular language you want that spelled out in? I thought he was concise enough about it.

Seriously, give it a rest. If the boards and /ooc were gone tomorrow, it'd be a happer place.

The vast majority don't care what goes on in the upper tier, and have no desire to hear about it.

The thing with leverage is: you have to believe that they care whether you play at all on their server, and then you have to also believe that you are important enough to be answered to 24/7. It's a big no on both accounts.

If they really were concerned about this server going the way of VZ/TZ, they'd start instabanning all the 'angries'.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:13 PM
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He wants you to shut the f*ck up and enjoy the server he created.

Any particular language you want that spelled out in? I thought he was concise enough about it.

Seriously, give it a rest. If the boards and /ooc were gone tomorrow, it'd be a happer place.

The vast majority don't care what goes on in the upper tier, and have no desire to hear about it.

The thing with leverage is: you have to believe that they care whether you play at all on their server, and then you have to also believe that you are important enough to be answered to 24/7. It's a big no on both accounts.
a) Shutting the fuck up and enjoying a server does not coincide with allowing one guild to exploit, as well as biased, wanton rule-setting.

b) Your "the vast majority don't care what goes on in the upper tier and have no desire to hear about it" comment is so random. Um, okay? I don't give a shit about economics but some people do so they tune into Bloomberg. I can avoid it, and I do, so who cares. What I care about it the myriad of issues which are occurring at the "upper tier" so who are you to tell me I can't express my concerns?

c) You really don't think Nilbog cares if people play on his server? So you're saying he spent a year of his life creating something that he doesn't want anyone to play? My god, you're delusional.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:36 PM
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a) Shutting the fuck up and enjoying a server does not coincide with allowing one guild to exploit, as well as biased, wanton rule-setting.

b) Your "the vast majority don't care what goes on in the upper tier and have no desire to hear about it" comment is so random. Um, okay? I don't give a shit about economics but some people do so they tune into Bloomberg. I can avoid it, and I do, so who cares. What I care about it the myriad of issues which are occurring at the "upper tier" so who are you to tell me I can't express my concerns?

c) You really don't think Nilbog cares if people play on his server? So you're saying he spent a year of his life creating something that he doesn't want anyone to play? My god, you're delusional.
a) you're still assuming Nilbog wants to appease you instead of wishing you'd just go away. Big assumption

b) tap someone on the shoulder at the bus stop tomorrow and let him know you didn't get to kill Vox this week. His interest in your story is akin to the interest of the vast majority who play here and/or dev/gm here.

c) not people. Whiny, high level people who will never be satisfied. Big difference.. He could /deltree Transcendence and IB tomorrow and be a happier man. Don't think it hasn't crossed his mind. Hell, they are paying bandwith simply to let you whine and scream and moan. Think about how hilariously sad that is for a moment.
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:24 AM
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a) Shutting the fuck up and enjoying a server does not coincide with allowing one guild to exploit, as well as biased, wanton rule-setting.
NEWSFLASH!! Inglorious Basterds has used exploits as well.....
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