Raid Suspension: The Mystical Order

[Locust]

Originally Posted by ManosMan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't suggest you start using DKP until you actually start killing dragons.

ffa sev. gauntlets of fiery might. awarded to an iksar shadowknight. no idea how many hours he's put in to raiding. it was disgusting and beautiful at the same time. cry about it. it's just loot.

don't need DKP if you DGAF (don't give a fuck, BDA's new official loot system)

[Samoht]

so once again you're advocating DKP or nothing. you quote where chest says he doesn't use it, but he doesn't say what he does use. you bridge the gap to assume he uses nothing by yourself.

Originally Posted by ManosMan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do yourselves a favor and start keeping track of things. I'm sure there have never been any mistakes in rewarding loot based off using only your memory... right?

still, i'm not sure what any of this has to do with the TMO raid suspension. you just came here to bash the guild that TMO opposes. you don't seem knowledgeable enough to successfully accomplish your goal, though. it looks like you just throw a lot of blind assumptions to the wall to see what sticks.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

BDA system is quite a bit like the TMO system, just with a little less stat tracking, I believe. It works out well for them. How did this damn thread get so off-topic. Pretty excited to see what Sirken has to say about this. My guess is he didn't like derubael stepping on his nuts and having conflicting GM reports and he wants GM decisions to be final, but we'll just have to tune in and see.

[Locust]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

still, i'm not sure what any of this has to do with the TMO raid suspension. you just came here to bash the guild that TMO opposes. you don't seem knowledgeable enough to successfully accomplish your goal, though. it looks like you just throw a lot of blind assumptions to the wall to see what sticks.

probs why he won't sign his posts. it's embarrassing

[ManosMan]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We keep a log of major loot handed out and we use that to help assist loot council decisions. We've used loot council for years and we're happy with it.

..... so no attendance then...

Originally Posted by Locust [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ffa sev. gauntlets of fiery might. awarded to an iksar shadowknight. no idea how many hours he's put in to raiding. it was disgusting and beautiful at the same time. cry about it. it's just loot.

don't need DKP if you DGAF (don't give a fuck, BDA's new official loot system)

... what the hell are you even talking about?

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so once again you're advocating DKP or nothing. you quote where chest says he doesn't use it, but he doesn't say what he does use. you bridge the gap to assume he uses nothing by yourself.

No, I 'bridged the gap' to assume that he wasn't keeping track of raid attendance...

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

still, i'm not sure what any of this has to do with the TMO raid suspension. you just came here to bash the guild that TMO opposes.

I must leap to the defense of a Class C guild, in hopes they will let me suckle from their great teat in my future endeavors.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you don't seem knowledgeable enough to successfully accomplish your goal, though. it looks like you just throw a lot of blind assumptions to the wall to see what sticks.

... but I was right...

Originally Posted by Locust [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

probs why he won't sign his posts. it's embarrassing

Yea I'm totally holding out to come be friends with you in game. I'd really rather have none of you exist until I hit 60. Except those Dial-a-Porters.... those guys are cool.

[Locust]

Originally Posted by ManosMan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... what the hell are you even talking about?

we've been getting along fine with our current loot system for years

Originally Posted by ManosMan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea I'm totally holding out to come be friends with you in game. I'd really rather have none of you exist until I hit 60.

so why are you so concerned with how BDA manages loot? why don't you sign your posts? if you're not embarrassed, and you're not holding out to be my friend, then what?

[Daldolma]

shut the fuck up

[Detoxx]

[QUOTE=Locust;1556378]we've been getting along fine with our current loot system for years


Because only for the last 6 months have you actually started getting loot.

[Rais]

I saw this fraps. It's only in 320p but most info can be gathered by it.

I think if Druushk wasn't with Hosh at zone in killing IB/TMO there wouldn't have been any suspension. But with TMO having agro on Druu from the start/during IB's engagement to running to zone in, I think that is why Sirken/Deru made that call.

I'm not sure if it is stored, but if there is pre encounter lists of agro that would clear things up. Otherwise some dude Butchsomething (no idea of full spelling since video is blurry) had FTE on Hosh and was killed. Unknown who had agro on Hosh after that since FTE list already had more than one person on it, since it didn't shoot off again after the death.

Hosh and Druushk both come to zone in and kill people. If it wasn't for Druushk being out of his room, pulled by TMO pullers only Hosh would have been there. Then it's too big of a question mark as to who had agro on Hosh since he roams around, and a ruling wouldn't be able to be made.

So tl/dr
Druushk was pulled by tmo, ended up at zone in and killing people.
No idea on Hosh agro, if it was only him imo nothing would have been done.
Druushk could only gain agro on IB because TMO pullers dropped agro next to IB/Cross paths with possible IB agro'ed Hoshkar.

Save the you hate tmo responses. I would just as much see IB death loop in vp as anyone else. I'd link the fraps, but since it was pm'ed to me it isn't mine to give.

[pufen]

Will you fuckheads bickering about BDA loot system shut the fuck up? No one gives two shits how BDA handles their 1 loot drop a month.